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#34796 29-May-2009 12:08

Can someone please help me understand the differences of 3G.

The Vodafone 3G which I am used to is UMTS 2100mHz?
Telecoms XT is UMTS 850mHz?
Vodafone's new 3G (Extended) is WCDMA 900mHz?

Is this correct?

What's the difference between UMTS & WCDMA?

To get high-speed data i the city I need UMTS 2100mHz, but to get it in the rural centres (that have been upgraded) I need WCDMA 900mHz?

Very confused!

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#219243 29-May-2009 12:19

UMTS WCDMA same thing

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#219246 29-May-2009 12:24

There are technical differences between what WCDMA and UMTS are, and it is described in other forums on Geekzone, but so far as which handsets support which bands the terms are interchangeable with each other. That is, a phone that runs on UMTS850 is the same as one that runs WCDMA850. Your summaries are also correct about who runs which frequencies where, except Telecom also have some 2100 coverage in main centres as well.

PS, if anyone wants to explain the difference between the WCDMA and UMTS you can, but I don't really think it to be necessary...

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#219247 29-May-2009 12:26

Beaten to it!

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#219304 29-May-2009 13:51

slotherby:
The Vodafone 3G which I am used to is UMTS 2100mHz?
Telecoms XT is UMTS 850mHz?
Vodafone's new 3G (Extended) is WCDMA 900mHz?

Correct. For all effects here WCDMA = UMTS.

slotherby:
To get high-speed data i the city I need UMTS 2100mHz, but to get it in the rural centres (that have been upgraded) I need WCDMA 900mHz?

Correct. If you already have a 3G handset it's most likely 2100 MHz. Some newer models support 900MHz/2100MHz. In the future more models should be available.

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#219443 29-May-2009 18:54

freitasm: Correct. If you already have a 3G handset it's most likely 1200 MHz.

Who's rolling out 1200 MHz?? Typo I guess :)

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#219461 29-May-2009 19:22

Yes, yes... Typo, typo. Fixed, thanks!

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#221368 3-Jun-2009 16:55

What data devices do vodafone offer that can use 3g extended? Preferably we are looking for pcmcia devices - should we get vodafone branded or generic devices?

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#221387 3-Jun-2009 17:44

Currently only their USB Vodem Stick is 3G extended capable.

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#221389 3-Jun-2009 17:48

I have been looking on the net for a WCDMA 900mHz PCMCIA device and have not found any yet. Was just about to buy a laptop with built-in 3G, but as it doesn't support 900mHz I won't bother.

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#221398 3-Jun-2009 18:30

coffeebaron: Currently only their USB Vodem Stick is 3G extended capable.

That is incorrect.

Nokia
3120c
6121
6210 Navigator
5800 Xpressmusic
E66
E63
E71
E75
N85
N96

LG
KS500

SonyEricsson
X1a

Probably a couple more that I've missed.

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#221401 3-Jun-2009 18:37

Jeffthechef:
coffeebaron: Currently only their USB Vodem Stick is 3G extended capable.

That is incorrect.

Nokia

3120c

6121

6210 Navigator

5800 Xpressmusic

E66

E63

E71

E75

N85

N96

LG

KS500

SonyEricsson

X1a

Probably a couple more that I've missed.

Aren't these all phones rather than data devices? I'm surprised that nothing supporting 3g extended is available bar the vodem? This is a real weakness as the vodems are huge and I don't think they would go down too well with our users.

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#221402 3-Jun-2009 18:37

If I'm not mistaken those are all phones, I'm pretty sure that he was looking for mobile internet devices, as I was.

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#221441 3-Jun-2009 21:12

Yes they are all phones, all which can be used as 3G modems also.

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#221528 4-Jun-2009 10:24

What a oxymoron.. "Vodafone Customer Service"... Huh. Now I got that off my chest.
I have finally got a handle on 3G Extended (Rural) and 3G (Main centres).

What I am now looking for is a 3G Wireless Router that will accept a Vodem Stick and will run off 12v DC.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Regards Warren

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#221530 4-Jun-2009 10:36

Thats what I want as well. But as far as I can find the wireless routers only support PCMCIA but none of those cards support 900 mHz.

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