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Topic # 4629 12-Aug-2005 11:47
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No doubt this is going to be seen as a troll. Saw this on voda live this morning and decided it would be worth posting up.

I know this has been discussed before.... enjoy.
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Mobile rates among highest in the world 12 Aug 2005 05:00AM


The bulk of New Zealand's more than three million mobile-phone users are paying close to the highest mobile-phone prices in the developed world so Vodafone and Telecom can subsidise fancy handsets for some customers, Australian specialist Paul Budde says.

New Zealand's high prices are in the spotlight, as the Government considers regulation of the wholesale rates Vodafone and Telecom charge to force prices down.

The companies were subsidising the cost of fancy handsets for some consumers but the phones did not bring in any more revenue than the less expensive ones, Mr Budde said.

Most revenues for Vodafone and Telecom came from calling rather than sending pictures and data.

"Consumers would say stop cross-subsidising the handsets and give us better call prices."

The cost to Vodafone and Telecom of providing the wholesale service was A5 cents to A7c a minute yet Telecom and Vodafone's wholesale charges were NZ27c a minute, he said.

"What they do is promote these handsets and get customers in and get the money back through termination rates and other high charges.

"If you really want to do the customers a favour then you would say bring the termination charges down."

New Zealand mobile prices are more expensive than Australian prices and Mr Budde said the cheaper Australian prices were the result of greater competition between several big players.

New Zealand's mobile prices are 70 per cent higher than the OECD average and the second highest in the developed world.

In Australia mobile prices are 20 per cent higher than the OECD average.

In New Zealand, the standard charges for Vodafone and Telecom on a prepaid phone are 89c a minute, or $1.39 a peak time and 49c offpeak. Those terms have not changed for at least two years.

Australians are being offered deals of $49 a month for mobile phone calling with a value of more than $200 a month.



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Reply # 18178 12-Aug-2005 11:53
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Paul Budde is another idiot who is often wrong and makes assumptions which have no factual basis. Plus he is an Australian and should but out of commenting on NZ!

Anyway do you want a naf phone or a cool phone? Do you want to pay full price for a cool phone or do you want a subsidy?

I want both a cool phone and a subsidy! Makes his comments seem idiotic.

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Reply # 18179 12-Aug-2005 11:57
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I agree with Jama

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Reply # 18185 12-Aug-2005 12:24
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cokemaster: set/pigeons/cat/amongst - you figure out the order :-)

There are so many things wrong with that article that I dont know where to start.

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Reply # 18208 12-Aug-2005 15:27
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cokemaster: set/pigeons/cat/amongst

That's not a valid regex.

I would expect that the folks with "fancy handsets" do use and pay for more mobile services than someone with a a low spec-ed handset. What's the reporter's basis for thinking otherwise?

even so, i'd like to see the price for data fall - it's the folks whinging about their voice calls that is holding the rest of us back from reasonably priced mobile data in this country.

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Reply # 18212 12-Aug-2005 15:35
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Paul Budde has some good things to say at times but also opens his mouth a bit too far some times with stupid comments. Vodafone certainly don't subsidise phones in either NZ or Oz (except for business plans but you pay a higher price per month so in effect you are just paying the extra $$ over the length of your contract).

Maybe call prices are too expensive in NZ but you have to look at interconnection costs and we all know what a touchy subject this is..

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Reply # 18250 12-Aug-2005 21:05
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Average pre-pay users spending $30 a quarter should be charged $0.49c/$1.39c a minute,

High users should be looked after with much cheaper rates....

Drop the archaic "free minute" plans. Voice is not longer the only feature available nor the primarily used!, The technology has changed since 1994 but the network access plans are still totally voice based!!! aRGH1 Australia's caps are the perfect solution.

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