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Topic # 64962 26-Jul-2010 20:01
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hi all ,
         I have some friends who are trying to set up a wireless access point at home ... they are on telstraclear cable { fibre} network they have just bought a belkin N wireless access device from the telstra shop the problem is they are having trouble setting it up .

could I please ask for a detailed setup procedure I can take them through { im only familar with ADSL }

here is there details ...

there router is a motorola SB5101 router running to there main desktop via USB not Network

brand new belkin N 300 wireless point .

thanks all for any advice as the help desk didnt seem too interested which I fibd funny giving its there products .

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  Reply # 356739 26-Jul-2010 20:11
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First problem is the cable modem connecting to the PC via USB.

Does their PC have an ethernet port?




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  Reply # 356740 26-Jul-2010 20:12
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Hi There , No they dont have a network card ... yes I was thinking this is the problem as well .

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  Reply # 356741 26-Jul-2010 20:16
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You're stuck then.

Without a network card or wireless adapter in the PC you have no way of connecting the PC to the new router.



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  Reply # 356748 26-Jul-2010 20:26
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Thank you very much for confirming that , ok so next step will be to get a network card then set the router up via network card .

Can anybody please supply me with instruction to ...

A/Setup a network with the above router

B/Setup the wireless part with the above wireless .

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  Reply # 356764 26-Jul-2010 21:02
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1.Take note of all the information on your friend's Internet access - IP address, gateway IP address, DNS numbers.

2.Unplug USB

3.Add network card, install drivers

4.Plug router to modem via ethernet on WAN port

5.Plug PC to router via ethernet on LAN port

6.Access the router configuration page using the browser

7.Enter the information gathered in step 1 into the configuration

8.You should have Internet access

9.Access the router configuration page using the browser

10.Go to wireless configuration and make sure to enforce a rule to use WPA security.

11.Create a key (password) your friends can remember

12.That's it








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  Reply # 356772 26-Jul-2010 21:12
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ok thanks very much forgive my ignorance ... but on the back of there current router { the one from TS } there are the following connections ...

1x Ethernet
1x USB
1x Power plug  so to get the wireless into the system do I need to to the following ....

Computer - wireless port - router {TS Supplied}

or

Computer - Router {TS Supplied} - Wireless {belkin}

the wireless has 4 ports on it .

Cheers
Andrew



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  Reply # 356774 26-Jul-2010 21:13
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opps forgot to ask ..... in terms of taking note of the settings is that just running the ipconfig tool and noting all the address etc ?

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  Reply # 356780 26-Jul-2010 21:17
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Actually sorry. You will replace the existing router with the new Belkin. To find the current configuration you must open the existing router configuration page.

Run IPCONFIG to find the gateway IP and use that in your browser to open the existing router configuration.

Then you will unplug it and connect

MODEM - [ethernet cable] -> Belkin router - [ethernet cable] -> PC







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  Reply # 356791 26-Jul-2010 21:40
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The belkin is only a wireless access point there is no-where to connect the telstra cable coax so really what they are trying to do is just add the wireless to there current connection .

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  Reply # 356792 26-Jul-2010 21:47
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  Reply # 356814 26-Jul-2010 22:40
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SB5101 is a cable modem operating in bridge mode so has no routing capability. So, not really suitable to add an access point to at all.

P.S. The fact that the wireless has 4 ports makes me wonder whether it may be more than an access point. N300 from my quick google is an adsl modem/router and of no use.




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  Reply # 356836 26-Jul-2010 23:32
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I'm not in front of our Telstra wireless setup but i'm pretty sure we are using a wireless router modem too and certainly not of no use to have this.

Ultimately you plug your telstra cable into your router as Mauricio advised then your modem/4 port router into your pc via the pc's network card .

After you have done that (assuming you plugged the cables correctly) all you have to do is go to your network connection settings where it should show what telstra ip/dns settings are. Add those to your wireless router via their config page then change the pc network settings to autoconfig and that should be it.

Sometimes people like to over complicate but it should be relatively easy.

The only down side is that any time you have a problem with your connection Telstra will tell you they support wireless connections with their cable modems and suggest you unplug the router and go directly back to the cable modem to pc setup. (I normally choose to omit the part where i am using a wireless setup).

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  Reply # 356869 27-Jul-2010 06:30
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veryshort: The belkin is only a wireless access point there is no-where to connect the telstra cable coax so really what they are trying to do is just add the wireless to there current connection .


You do not connect the coax to the router. It still stays plugged into the cable modem which in turn is connected to the router via ethernet cable.

The issue may be that the current modem is actually unsuitable for cable as pointed out above and is for ADSL. Without the actual model number this is hard to confirm.


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  Reply # 357849 28-Jul-2010 17:29
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Assuming that the Belkin unit IS just an access point and doesn't have an ADSL or a WAN port, then...

Cable Model --> Existing Router --> Ethernet On Belkin

And the PC can stay connected to the existing router.

If the existing router doesn't actually have more than 1 ethernet port, then you'll need a hub/switch between it, the Belkin and the PC.

Depending on the setup of the existing router and the capability of the Belkin, you may need to need to connect to the Belkin directly from the PC to setup it's network settings first (ie, if it can't pick up a DHCP from the router).

If the Belkin has a WAN port, then I'd swap the existing router for it and take the existing one out of the loop, but first you will have to setup the static IP settings etc (gather the information from the existing router's setup, and follow the instructions in the Belkin manual to put it in).

If the Belkin has an ADSL (phone line) port, then you'd need to check the manual to see if it can be turned into an access point only, if so then follow the first procedure above.




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