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Topic # 67498 2-Sep-2010 19:35
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Browsing the Vodafone website today, and came across TeamVodafone Sailing. Not only is it a pretty spiffy looking trimaran, but the website makes some interesting claims:

- Vodafone’s extended 3G coverage is available up to 120km offshore (measured from the location of the coastal base transmitter site)

-Vodafone’s 3G coverage sends 24% more data per second, than Telecom’s XT network (Vodafone – 787.7 kbps vs. Telecom – 599.2 kbps)

-New Zealand Navy Seals tested both Vodafone and Telecom’s XT network in April 2010 and found a higher call success rate/lower drop call rate on the Vodafone network

-Vodafone network is the fastest and most reliable network on the water

http://play.vodafone.co.nz/teamvodafone-sailing

My two questions are
1) Has anyone had any experience using Vodafones marine coverage, and what was it like?

2) Shouldn't Vodafone be actively promoting the use of VHF radios in a marine environment?
In an emergency, you would be far better off using a VHF radio IMHO

What do you think?




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  Reply # 375953 2-Sep-2010 19:53
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NZ has Navy Seals? Are they of the animal variety? Or dudes in spiffy costumes with big knives?

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  Reply # 375958 2-Sep-2010 20:00
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VinLew: Browsing the Vodafone website today, and came across TeamVodafone Sailing. Not only is it a pretty spiffy looking trimaran, but the website makes some interesting claims:

- Vodafone’s extended 3G coverage is available up to 120km offshore (measured from the location of the coastal base transmitter site)

-Vodafone’s 3G coverage sends 24% more data per second, than Telecom’s XT network (Vodafone – 787.7 kbps vs. Telecom – 599.2 kbps)

-New Zealand Navy Seals tested both Vodafone and Telecom’s XT network in April 2010 and found a higher call success rate/lower drop call rate on the Vodafone network

-Vodafone network is the fastest and most reliable network on the water

http://play.vodafone.co.nz/teamvodafone-sailing

My two questions are
1) Has anyone had any experience using Vodafones marine coverage, and what was it like?

2) Shouldn't Vodafone be actively promoting the use of VHF radios in a marine environment?
In an emergency, you would be far better off using a VHF radio IMHO

What do you think?





I'll answer your second question here. We agree in our humble opinion;-)

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/coverage/marine.jsp 

While Vodafone hopes that the extended mobile coverage will help increase safety among boaties,we strongly advise boating and fishing enthusiasts to carry a marine radio for emergency purposes. Water Safety NZ recommends boaties carry at least two means of communication for in-shore trips and three means if travelling over two miles from shore. Water Safety NZ recommends VHF radios, flares, locator beacons and cellphones. For more information see the Water Safety NZ website.

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  Reply # 375965 2-Sep-2010 20:25
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VinLew:
-Vodafone’s 3G coverage sends 24% more data per second, than Telecom’s XT network (Vodafone – 787.7 kbps vs. Telecom – 599.2 kbps)

What do you think?


I think that Vodafone should fix their terrestrial network before promoting their marine coverage... A couple of weeks ago, the @VodafoneNZ twitter account called me out for doing XT speed tests at 3AM, and said that I should do tests with my Vodafone NZ SIM to give "a fair and balanced view" - let's look at the results:

The first three tests are via Telecom's XT network, the last 7 tests are via Vodafone's 3G network. I stress that these are not conclusive, representative or to be interpreted as such in any way, and that they were taken via my iPhone. I also note that at ~3AM, there should have been little to no traffic on each network, which makes the Voda performance look that much worse...Please look at the ping for each test result, too.

Before you ask, I tested more with Vodafone's network to see if it was an issue with the speedtest server, which it clearly wasn't as I used multiple sites.

Anyway, here we are:















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  Reply # 375966 2-Sep-2010 20:29

Hah.

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  Reply # 375973 2-Sep-2010 20:47
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munchkin:
VinLew:
-Vodafone’s 3G coverage sends 24% more data per second, than Telecom’s XT network (Vodafone – 787.7 kbps vs. Telecom – 599.2 kbps)

What do you think?


I think that Vodafone should fix their terrestrial network before promoting their marine coverage... A couple of weeks ago, the @VodafoneNZ twitter account called me out for doing XT speed tests at 3AM, and said that I should do tests with my Vodafone NZ SIM to give "a fair and balanced view" - let's look at the results:

The first three tests are via Telecom's XT network, the last 7 tests are via Vodafone's 3G network. I stress that these are not conclusive, representative or to be interpreted as such in any way, and that they were taken via my iPhone. I also note that at ~3AM, there should have been little to no traffic on each network, which makes the Voda performance look that much worse...Please look at the ping for each test result, too.

Before you ask, I tested more with Vodafone's network to see if it was an issue with the speedtest server, which it clearly wasn't as I used multiple sites.

Anyway, here we are:



Can you clarify which question you were answering?

My two questions are 
1) Has anyone had any experience using Vodafones marine coverage, and what was it like?

2) Shouldn't Vodafone be actively promoting the use of VHF radios in a marine environment?
In an emergency, you would be far better off using a VHF radio IMHO

What do you think? 

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  Reply # 375976 2-Sep-2010 20:53
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You asked "What do you think", and I replied that "I think that Vodafone should fix their terrestrial network before promoting their marine coverage", and then I proceeded to show why I think that.




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  Reply # 376276 3-Sep-2010 14:30
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I sit on neither Vodafone or Telecom's side but Vodafone has 2.5ish million subscribers alot of which are on 3g since its pretty hard to buy a phone on their network without it, Compare this with Telecom XT's 600,000ish subscribers and Its easy to see why XT's faster. I'd like to see XT's network with 2+mill subscribers and see how fast it is then.

But at the end of the day I dont really like either but am with Vodafone because it offers the best coverage where I am, Had CDMA back in Wellington due to its better coverage where I was.




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  Reply # 376282 3-Sep-2010 14:57
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scottjpalmer: NZ has Navy Seals? Are they of the animal variety? Or dudes in spiffy costumes with big knives?


Yeah I want to know more about the seals.



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  Reply # 378637 10-Sep-2010 18:06
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VinLew: Browsing the Vodafone website today, and came across TeamVodafone Sailing. Not only is it a pretty spiffy looking trimaran, but the website makes some interesting claims:

- Vodafone?s extended 3G coverage is available up to 120km offshore (measured from the location of the coastal base transmitter site)

-Vodafone?s 3G coverage sends 24% more data per second, than Telecom?s XT network (Vodafone ? 787.7 kbps vs. Telecom ? 599.2 kbps)

-New Zealand Navy Seals tested both Vodafone and Telecom?s XT network in April 2010 and found a higher call success rate/lower drop call rate on the Vodafone network

-Vodafone network is the fastest and most reliable network on the water

http://play.vodafone.co.nz/teamvodafone-sailing

My two questions are
1) Has anyone had any experience using Vodafones marine coverage, and what was it like?

2) Shouldn't Vodafone be actively promoting the use of VHF radios in a marine environment?
In an emergency, you would be far better off using a VHF radio IMHO

What do you think?





I'll answer your second question here. We agree in our humble opinion;-)

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/coverage/marine.jsp?

While Vodafone hopes that the extended mobile coverage will help increase safety among boaties,we strongly advise boating and fishing enthusiasts to carry a marine radio for emergency purposes.?Water Safety NZ recommends boaties carry at least two means of communication for in-shore trips and three means if travelling over two miles from shore. Water Safety NZ recommends VHF radios, flares, locator beacons and cellphones. For more information see the?Water Safety NZ website.


Ah, I didn't see that there. But still, if vodafone are promoting how well their network works in the ocean, I would (personally) expect at least a small footnote to advocate the carrying of VHF.
That's just my opinion, but as a yachtie I sure wouldn't rely on a 3g network for emergency communications.

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