[WXC/VFX] VDSL2

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#70313 21-Oct-2010 14:27

It seems now that worldnet.co.nz are offering VDSL2 http://www.worldnet.co.nz/personal/vdsl2/

When will Xnet be doing the same?

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#394395 21-Oct-2010 16:07

I read that as not offering, but gathering figures to see if there is demand for it to warrant upgrading or leasing some of the gear.

No access to cabinets still so it will likely only be close to exchange users that will benefit for now.

Theres a few telecom workers on it for testing from what I hear through the grapevine. And some ISP staff who are beta testing for their own supply.

Chorus tech I was with yesterday indicated a user he is aware of is on 24mbit, Which wasn't at all bad as he was just over 2k from the gear :)

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#394396 21-Oct-2010 16:08

Nobody is yet offering VDSL2.

When it is available there will be a number of ISP's offering it.

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#394400 21-Oct-2010 16:13

sbiddle: Nobody is yet offering VDSL2.

When it is available there will be a number of ISP's offering it.

Actually Telstraclear have been offering it for a while - almost 12 months I think. They call it BizNet.
http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/business/products/internet/biznet/index.cfm

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#394461 21-Oct-2010 18:11

http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/business/products/internet/biznet/index.cfm

Yep they have done for a good year or more, but from how many nodes compared to Telecoms?, and not really at a $20premium compared to ADSL plans.

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#394469 21-Oct-2010 18:29

Interesting read...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_speed_digital_subscriber_line_2

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#394517 21-Oct-2010 20:29

ockel:
sbiddle: Nobody is yet offering VDSL2.

When it is available there will be a number of ISP's offering it.

Actually Telstraclear have been offering it for a while - almost 12 months I think. They call it BizNet.
http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/business/products/internet/biznet/index.cfm

I meant nobody through Telecom Wholesale.

I was hoping to have had a connection this week but that has been delayed.

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#394518 21-Oct-2010 20:32

Oblivian: No access to cabinets still so it will likely only be close to exchange users that will benefit for now.

Cabinets have VDSL as well as it's the same ALU ISAM module for ADSL/ADSL2+/VDSL.

Anybody who does wholesale connections will be able to offer the product, however there are presently some regulatory issues around the launch and the availability of naked and clothed variants. Last week's commerce commission ruling probably opened up a whole new can of worms as well.

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#394628 22-Oct-2010 06:54

cyril7:
http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/business/products/internet/biznet/index.cfm

Yep they have done for a good year or more, but from how many nodes compared to Telecoms?, and not really at a $20premium compared to ADSL plans.

Cyril

Wasnt the $20 premium an indication of wholesale price premium not retail price premium?
Given where urban fibre is being pitched in terms of retail pricing and Telstraclears retail pricing (both VDSL and price for speed on different cable offerings) it could be a whole lot higher than $20 over ADSL.

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#394646 22-Oct-2010 08:42

Hi, your right, will be interesting to see what price they start retailing it at.

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#394725 22-Oct-2010 12:06

Just interested because I've just been connected to a new cabinet with adsl2/vdsl2 and have a nice connection sync of 24Mbit. VDSL should snyc up nicely when I can get it.

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#394770 22-Oct-2010 14:53

I had the chance to get into the trial with Telecom, but I had to have my attenuation lower than 10.8dB so I missed out :(

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#395646 25-Oct-2010 23:14

Yay. VDSL2. We all get to use up our data caps or data-by-the-dollar even faster than now.

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#395675 26-Oct-2010 07:31

sultanoswing: Yay. VDSL2. We all get to use up our data caps or data-by-the-dollar even faster than now.

How? You'll only use a bigger cap if your surfing habits change significantly.

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#395690 26-Oct-2010 09:13

How? You'll only use a bigger cap if your surfing habits change significantly.

I didn't say bigger, I said we'duse it faster... which I suppose is good, but my point is that while data caps or charge-by-the-amount remains in NZ we remain behind much of the developed world however much faster it may be.

However since you mention it, faster speed does encourage and permit a wider range of applications - the most obvious being more streaming video. Such applications remain more limited or costly in NZ thanks to the above constraints.

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