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Topic # 230663 7-Mar-2018 13:25
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This may be of interest if you are a low user.

 

Warehouse mobile seems to be the best deal at the moment.
They use the 2D network so if you have 2D coverage and a low user look at them.

 

They now offer free calling and texting between warehouse mobile customers.
My wife has just signed up so my daughter can now call her for free.
They will each spend about $5 a month I reckon.

 

Calls/Texts must be made within NZ.

 

Warehouse mobile now allow a $10 top-up to last 90 days so the minimum spend is $3.35 a month.

 

Causal texts 2c each
casual talk 4c/min
casual data 6c/MB

 

Value packs available (eg unlimited texts $4/month)


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  Reply # 1970664 7-Mar-2018 13:36
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I guess they were forced to react to 2deg 9$ carryover combo or skinny 9$ one month combo which are much better than the original 10$ a month deal from WM. Extending the credit to 3 months makes it a bit better but still far from value of the previously mentioned combos (especially the data component of it).

 

I'd say suitable for really low users which don't use mobile internet.

 

 


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Reply # 1970709 7-Mar-2018 14:46
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The only downside is that it is impossible to know if a customer is with 2 degrees or Warehouse Mobile. Texting the mobile number to 300 will tell you that the number is a 2 degrees number regardless, since Warehouse Mobile is a brand of 2 degrees. If Spark and Skinny can tell the difference (both owned by Spark), why can't 2 degrees?


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  Reply # 1970904 7-Mar-2018 21:23
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I changed all our kids to WM mobile as they only did text and data

 

WM

 

For $10 minimum top up this lasts for 3 months

 

Buy $4 for 500mb data carryover $8  gets you 1.25gb)

 

+ Buy $4 unlimited text

 

leaving $2 to carry over

 

Or

 

Buy $4 for 500mb

 

leaving $6 for text @2c

 

 

 

 

 

2degrees & skinny $9 plan

 

 

 

gets you unlimited text data + 250mb only but need to pay extra $10 for 500mb

 

 


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  Reply # 1970907 7-Mar-2018 21:29
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stinger:

 

The only downside is that it is impossible to know if a customer is with 2 degrees or Warehouse Mobile. Texting the mobile number to 300 will tell you that the number is a 2 degrees number regardless, since Warehouse Mobile is a brand of 2 degrees. If Spark and Skinny can tell the difference (both owned by Spark), why can't 2 degrees?

 

 

@stinger Then 2D should be refunding the minutes used

 

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  Reply # 1972216 10-Mar-2018 09:16
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eph:

 

I'd say suitable for really low users which don't use mobile internet.

 

 

I disagree.

 

Each month I buy a $4 data pack with gives me 500MB, twice as much as the 250MB you get on the $9 combo from Skinny or 2D. Between calls (4c per min) and texts (2c ea) I generally spend less than a dollar. For me it is less than $5 per month with twice the data of the $9 plans, this makes it a good plan for someone that uses mobile internet but wants the best value.

 

I could spend $8 on a 1.25GB pack + up to $1 on texts and calls.  This would give me FIVE times as much data for the same price as the Skinny or 2D $9 plans.  AND that is $9 per 31 days which is better than $9 per 28 days with Skinny.


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  Reply # 1972230 10-Mar-2018 10:28
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Interestingly I was at The Warehouse the other night and didn't see any handsets for The Warehouse mobile at all. I thought maybe they were getting rid of it.

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  Reply # 1972250 10-Mar-2018 10:56
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MarkH67:

 

eph:

 

I'd say suitable for really low users which don't use mobile internet.

 

 

I disagree.

 

Each month I buy a $4 data pack with gives me 500MB, twice as much as the 250MB you get on the $9 combo from Skinny or 2D. Between calls (4c per min) and texts (2c ea) I generally spend less than a dollar. For me it is less than $5 per month with twice the data of the $9 plans, this makes it a good plan for someone that uses mobile internet but wants the best value.

 

I could spend $8 on a 1.25GB pack + up to $1 on texts and calls.  This would give me FIVE times as much data for the same price as the Skinny or 2D $9 plans.  AND that is $9 per 31 days which is better than $9 per 28 days with Skinny.

 

 

Yeah, I didn't know about the 4$ internet pack, I remember it being 8$. But you are really really low user if a dollar a month for calls and texts is enough for you :)


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  Reply # 1972533 10-Mar-2018 21:35
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eph:

 

But you are really really low user if a dollar a month for calls and texts is enough for you :)

 

 

Well, texts are only 2c each and calls are only 4c/min, so you can make some calls and send a few texts for $1.  Also, if you have friends of family that also change to Warehouse Mobile, calls and texts to them would be free.

 

In my case: I send a few texts, maybe 20 or 30 in a month, I receive calls but rarely make any and I use around 200 - 300MB of data.  I don't find it hard to get through a month on $5.  If I need to ring someone from my mobile then even 25 minutes of calls is only an extra dollar and I would have to make over 100 minutes of calls in a month for it to be dearer than buying a $4 calling pack.


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  Reply # 1972749 11-Mar-2018 17:43
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Does the free minute require you to be on a combo?

 

I wonder how WM is going to make money if entire households/company moves to them and stops paying and just uses free txt/minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

Also does WM number have expiry dates if you stop spending? (e.g. only take incoming calls)






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  Reply # 1972759 11-Mar-2018 18:19
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zyo:

 

Does the free minute require you to be on a combo?

 

I wonder how WM is going to make money if entire households/company moves to them and stops paying and just uses free txt/minutes.

 

Also does WM number have expiry dates if you stop spending? (e.g. only take incoming calls)

 

 

If everyone changed to WM then they would gain a minimum of $10 per 3 months per customer, they would probably make a lot of money.  With modern smartphones everyone wants data, most people would do what I do and spend at least $4 per 31 days on a data pack. 

 

IMO there is incredibly good value to be had here.  If two close friends (or close relatives or lovers) both changed to WM they would be able to call and text each other as much as they liked for free, $4 per month would buy a reasonable amount of data, texts and calls to other networks would only cost them 2c each and 4c per minute - none of the other networks come close to that value. 

 

To other networks 100 minutes only costs $4 without needing a pack, with a $4 pack you can get 120 minutes - but that isn't much of a difference and if you don't use all of that 120 minutes (or at least 100 minutes of it) then you might as well just pay for calls as you go.  With texts it is 2c each or $4 for unlimited, if you send over 200 texts every month then the pack makes sense, but if you send 10 - 50 texts per month like me (or any number up to 200) then there is no point in paying for the pack.  I don't really see much need for the talk or text packs except for those teenagers sending many hundreds (or even thousands) of texts per month, but even those teenagers could all decide to switch to WM and they could text each other all the time without needing to pay for the $4 text pack. 

 

The data is different, 6c per MB adds up to $30 for 500MB, whereas a 500MB pack is only $4. If you used more than 67MB of data per 31 days on average then the $4 pack will save you money.  For those that do more with data and need more than $8 for 1.25GB is still cheap.  Just get anyone that you talk to or text to also switch to WM and you could get by on $5 per month like me!  Or maybe $9 if you need lots of data. 

 

Compare with Skinny where you have to pay $16 per 28 days to get a decent amount of data, even an $8 data pack, $4 text pack and $4 talk pack with WM would only cost $16 per 31 days which is still cheaper. I suspect that the majority of NZers would save money if they used WM rather than 2D, Vodafone, Spark or Skinny.  Definitely, a bit of migration to WM would make the other players step up their game somewhat.


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  Reply # 1972760 11-Mar-2018 18:21
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Teenages dont use all that much text or calling now, its all snapchat and other apps, the market for SMS is older people that are not able to use the apps. That probably fits quite well with the warehouses target.





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  Reply # 1972775 11-Mar-2018 19:05
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MarkH67:

 

zyo:

 

Does the free minute require you to be on a combo?

 

I wonder how WM is going to make money if entire households/company moves to them and stops paying and just uses free txt/minutes.

 

Also does WM number have expiry dates if you stop spending? (e.g. only take incoming calls)

 

 

If everyone changed to WM then they would gain a minimum of $10 per 3 months per customer, they would probably make a lot of money.  With modern smartphones everyone wants data, most people would do what I do and spend at least $4 per 31 days on a data pack. 

 

IMO there is incredibly good value to be had here.  If two close friends (or close relatives or lovers) both changed to WM they would be able to call and text each other as much as they liked for free, $4 per month would buy a reasonable amount of data, texts and calls to other networks would only cost them 2c each and 4c per minute - none of the other networks come close to that value. 

 

To other networks 100 minutes only costs $4 without needing a pack, with a $4 pack you can get 120 minutes - but that isn't much of a difference and if you don't use all of that 120 minutes (or at least 100 minutes of it) then you might as well just pay for calls as you go.  With texts it is 2c each or $4 for unlimited, if you send over 200 texts every month then the pack makes sense, but if you send 10 - 50 texts per month like me (or any number up to 200) then there is no point in paying for the pack.  I don't really see much need for the talk or text packs except for those teenagers sending many hundreds (or even thousands) of texts per month, but even those teenagers could all decide to switch to WM and they could text each other all the time without needing to pay for the $4 text pack. 

 

The data is different, 6c per MB adds up to $30 for 500MB, whereas a 500MB pack is only $4. If you used more than 67MB of data per 31 days on average then the $4 pack will save you money.  For those that do more with data and need more than $8 for 1.25GB is still cheap.  Just get anyone that you talk to or text to also switch to WM and you could get by on $5 per month like me!  Or maybe $9 if you need lots of data. 

 

Compare with Skinny where you have to pay $16 per 28 days to get a decent amount of data, even an $8 data pack, $4 text pack and $4 talk pack with WM would only cost $16 per 31 days which is still cheaper. I suspect that the majority of NZers would save money if they used WM rather than 2D, Vodafone, Spark or Skinny.  Definitely, a bit of migration to WM would make the other players step up their game somewhat.

 

 

 

 

Ok I am already using WM but I would like to give a sim to my parents as a backup phone (dual sim) in which case they would only be calling/txt my number. Does that still require any monthly charges at all?








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  Reply # 1972778 11-Mar-2018 19:10
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Pretty sure active account means you have to top up $10 every 3 months. Not 100% sure if the existing credit expires after 3 months but suspect it probably does

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  Reply # 1972785 11-Mar-2018 19:24
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KrazyKid: Pretty sure active account means you have to top up $10 every 3 months. Not 100% sure if the existing credit expires after 3 months but suspect it probably does

 

 

 

I couldn't find any information regarding account deactivation on their website, for a secondary phone $10 every 3 months is not as good as Skinny which requires 5 dollar topup every 12 months (and that money can be transferred afterwards)






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  Reply # 1972810 11-Mar-2018 19:48
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zyo:

 

I couldn't find any information regarding account deactivation on their website, for a secondary phone $10 every 3 months is not as good as Skinny which requires 5 dollar topup every 12 months (and that money can be transferred afterwards)

 

 

Yep, definitely - for ultra-low usage (like a backup phone) the best option would have to be with Skinny, most others are $20/yr and WM is $40/yr (4 x $10 top-ups).

 

For a phone that is actively used then, WM is probably going to work out the cheapest, but there definitely are people that have a phone they barely use.  My mother is with Spark, she tops up $20 once in every ~9 months, for her WM wouldn't be cheaper.


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