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Topic # 10161 7-Nov-2006 19:31
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tell me why this is/isnt a good idea...

get a voip account with a new zealand provider who will give me a new zealand landline number.

permanently divert it to a skypein aussie number.

wear the cost of both incoming numbers, plus a per min rate for incoming calls on the nz number (likely around 5c a min)

possible?? any technical probs with this?

i dont know if i want to do it, but its a concept that is now bugging me lol




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  Reply # 51526 7-Nov-2006 22:06
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tonyhughes: possible?? any technical probs with this?

It should be quite possible.  VFX would allow you to forward calls to Aussie for 5c/min and at present there is no charge for the local number.

However, regarding technical probs I think you will be in for a severe case of lag.  It seems that all Skype calls have to make a 2-way trip through the SCC (to US and back).  I know it shouldn't really be this way as Skype is peer-to-peer, but we have tried a SkypeIn number in Denmark, and the lag was wicked.  I have also tried using SkypeOut to call my son in Auckland via the PSTN and the lag seemed to be just as bad.

And yet others who use SkypeOut in the US and Europe say there is negligible lag.  However, they were also quick to mention that if you called people in NZ, you get lots of lag.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 51555 8-Nov-2006 07:53
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i thought lag might be the biggie.

And yes MF, an actual NZ skypein number would be the most ideal, but there just doesnt seem to be this option on the horizon yet.




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  Reply # 51559 8-Nov-2006 08:05
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Nothing against VoIP but this is one of few peef that put me off on wanting to use VoIP. At least with landline (despite how much I like to be less depending on it) has higher quality on a connection. Now ideally I'd be operating off my cellphone however with a mother at home whom prefer to be contacted on landline, and the surcharges to call/receive calls from overseas on cellphone is not balanced.




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  Reply # 51590 8-Nov-2006 11:11
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What are you trying to achieve by doing this?

Are you just after portablity to receive calls from any computer while you travel? iTalk's Softphone might be a good option for this. Though I suppose you may have some trouble at internet cafes. You might need to carry the software installed on a flash drive, if that works (?) But you may also have problems with blocked ports, depending on the internet cafe. But also many web cafe's around the world don't even have Skype installed.

Or are you just after the cheaper toll calling rates of Skype? There are providers like Voip Stunt who do tolls to landlines to about 35 countries for free (including NZ and Aus) as long as you have 10 euro credit loaded every 120 days, and then they have compeitive rates on other countries too.



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  Reply # 51599 8-Nov-2006 12:08
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I would quite like to have a NZ Skypein number, by any means really, even if someone else provides the number.

I have a good Skype setup that im happy with, with my voicemails being emailed to me wherever i am, and every phone I own ringing at once when I recieve a call (home phone, apache (primary cell) and Sanyo (tandem cell)).

I would like to be able to give out a landline number (and possibly even a SIP number) that will end up landing on this Skype based setup.

Im still struggling through other VoIP providers trying to discover capabilities and availability, whereas Skype "just works", but unfortunately dont offer NZ based SkypeIn numbers :(





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  Reply # 74749 15-Jun-2007 05:39
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I wonder who is the leasor of the 889 number prefix? This is the block Skype propose (certainly when I apply for a number), but according to the Number Administration Deed, 889 is under 'protected' status with no allocated telco.





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  Reply # 74752 15-Jun-2007 06:46
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What calling areas can you buy numbers in and how much do they cost?


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  Reply # 74755 15-Jun-2007 08:05
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antoniosk:

I wonder who is the leasor of the 889 number prefix? This is the block Skype propose (certainly when I apply for a number), but according to the Number Administration Deed, 889 is under 'protected' status with no allocated telco.



The number ranges are (mainly) provided by Symbio Networks in Australia.

09 970/914/966 - TelstraClear
09 889 - Symbio Networks (Australia)
03 669 - Symbio Networks (Australia)
04 889 - Symbio Networks (Australia)

Funny thing is, the numbers are showing as "Reserved" - not "Assigned". Don't know if this is just m-co not updating the NAD register on their website yet, or if they're breaking something by doing this.

I wonder who's providing them with TCL numbers?

I believe all SkypeIn numbers are 15 EUR per quarter, or 50 EUR per year.

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  Reply # 74757 15-Jun-2007 08:43
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I'm not sure if you have looked in to Skype to SIP gateways, but maybe worth a try:
http://www.rsdevs.com/psgw.shtml




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  Reply # 74763 15-Jun-2007 09:26
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coffeebaron: I'm not sure if you have looked in to Skype to SIP gateways, but maybe worth a try:
http://www.rsdevs.com/psgw.shtml


Any curent software based Skype<->SIP gateways are all kludges. Because the Skype protocol is proprietory all a program like PGSw does is create a virtual sound driver between SIP and Skype to transfer the audio. You need to have Skype running on the same PC for this to work.

Skype is a great for what it is but it's not a PSTN replacement like a decent SIP service such as VFX.

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  Reply # 74852 15-Jun-2007 19:24
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sbiddle: Any curent software based Skype<->SIP gateways are all kludges. Because the Skype protocol is proprietory all a program like PGSw does is create a virtual sound driver between SIP and Skype to transfer the audio. You need to have Skype running on the same PC for this to work.

Yes I'd agree, although I would put the above "work around" in the same category as Tony's VFX - Asterisk solution. They are both using unnecessary D-A A-D conversions (either through audio drivers or ATA to Digium card). Would be great to have some inter working standard. Skype don't necessarily have to open up their proprietary standards, but would be good if they made some application to interface with sip.

Ah well, roll on Skype-in NZ numbers. Hey, wonder if you can port to them :)




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  Reply # 75824 24-Jun-2007 23:46
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Hi.

I bought a NZ Skype IN number the last week when I got an email from Skype informing me of the new release.

I grabbed an 889 prefix number.  It is interesting how it calls my Skype name and can divert to my other Skype username and if I do not answer the other Skype name it then diverts to my Auckland home phone number.  If my home phone number does not answer, it sends a Telecom text to my wife's mobile phone.

I don't use a mobile phone, because I use a Vodafone Vodemon my laptop and Skype with the wired headset or Bluetooth earpiece.

Apparently, Skype emailed me the other day to clarify, that with a Skype IN number and Skype Pro, I only pay about 6 cents (one off connection fee) to connect to any NZ landline phone and then it is "no cents" (toll free) calling around NZ.

I understand that it is no connection fee and toll free to call my Skyps number from anywhere in NZ too.

It is working great for me.

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sawadee: Vodafone Vodemon


You mean a Vodafone Vodem?

And Sawadee to you too Wink.

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