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Topic # 115352 22-Mar-2013 19:46
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Hi, I have recently ordered an Orcon Genius router with an unlimited data plan and VoIP.I was hoping to run an analogue phone using the line out of the Cisco SPA112. I have had no luck when connecting the Cisco SPA112 with ethernet connection to the Orcon Genius and a single Analogue phone plugged into the 'line one' output of the SPA112.

The SPA112 configuration utility shows that 'line one' is not registered and has no tone.

Has anybody had any experience in doing this type of setup. I am a little confused as to what voice settings to put into the SPA112 configuration utility for Orcon.

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  Reply # 785660 22-Mar-2013 20:19
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I don't understand your setup. Who is your VoIP provider? You would need to ask them for details.


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  Reply # 785667 22-Mar-2013 20:41
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Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  Reply # 785677 22-Mar-2013 20:45
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coffeebaron: Is this what you mean?
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=82&topicid=112419


If that was the case you'd have to get Orcon to disable the VoIP account in the Genius first.

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  Reply # 785678 22-Mar-2013 20:46
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I have to ask - why do you need to use the SPA112? You can plug an analogue phone into the Orcon Genius and it will work straight off the bat. You can even setup the Genius to register with a second SIP provider (e.g. 2Talk)

If you want to persevere then the link above is your ticket, its not as simple as other providers - you need to download the Genius config and decode the login/password from that. Orcon hasn't designed Genius service to be used with third party devices so its not an easy route to go down



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  Reply # 785683 22-Mar-2013 20:53
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My ISP is Orcon. They have supplied my with an 'Orcon Genius' router (without the phone attached to it). I have an internet connection also a VoIP service as no landline connection is supplied with this naked plan.

I have plugged a Cisco SPA112 into the Orcon Router via the ethernet connection.

I have plugged an analogue telephone into the 'line1' output of the SPA112.

I have no dial tone/incoming calls or anything on my telephone

Could someone please help me with the settings that I need to input into the Cisco SPA112 to make it work. Orcon my ISP are no help to me as customer service do not know anything about the VoIP settings for their service. Information provided my router setup page is also inadequate and does not give me enough information.

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  Reply # 785686 22-Mar-2013 20:57
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livefornow851: My ISP is Orcon. They have supplied my with an 'Orcon Genius' router (without the phone attached to it). I have an internet connection also a VoIP service as no landline connection is supplied with this naked plan.

I have plugged a Cisco SPA112 into the Orcon Router via the ethernet connection.

I have plugged an analogue telephone into the 'line1' output of the SPA112.

I have no dial tone/incoming calls or anything on my telephone

Could someone please help me with the settings that I need to input into the Cisco SPA112 to make it work. Orcon my ISP are no help to me as customer service do not know anything about the VoIP settings for their service. Information provided my router setup page is also inadequate and does not give me enough information.


Nobody can provide you with details to use a SPA112 as your VoIP device. You would have to reverse engineer these yourself using the link provided above. Your post suggests you're not technically literate or understand VoIP so I would go as far as suggesting you're probably incapable of actually doing what you want to do. You will also need to swap your modem for something else as I don't believe Orcon will remove the voice provisioning assigned to a Genius account.

I still don't understand why you want to use a SPA112 rather than just plugging a phone into the Genius and using that? It would be a million times simpler.




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  Reply # 785701 22-Mar-2013 21:34
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there is a socket on the genius to plug you phone into




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  Reply # 785702 22-Mar-2013 21:35
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I understand that it would be a good idea to run the phones directly from the RJ11 port in the back of the Orcon router. The router is currently in a cabinet so I may have to look at either moving it or plugging the disconnected phone system into it.

In the meantime I have managed to successfully find out the password that is required and change the ports. I have the status of 'line1' to display that it is registered.

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  Reply # 785705 22-Mar-2013 21:43
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livefornow851: I understand that it would be a good idea to run the phones directly from the RJ11 port in the back of the Orcon router. The router is currently in a cabinet so I may have to look at either moving it or plugging the disconnected phone system into it.

In the meantime I have managed to successfully find out the password that is required and change the ports. I have the status of 'line1' to display that it is registered.


Even if you get the SPA112 going you need to disable the VoIP in the Genius as you can't have two SIP devices using the same SIP credentials. I'm not aware of Orcon doing this, so your only option if you want to stick with the SPA112 will probably be to buy a new modem and replace the Genius.






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  Reply # 785709 22-Mar-2013 21:58
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This is no problem as I have a spare one. Does it have to be anything specific or can it be any ADSL2+ withoup VoIP?



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  Reply # 786029 23-Mar-2013 19:38
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I have managed to get the Cisco SPA112 to work perfectly with the Orcon VoIP.

I got the device to register using the following link http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=82&topicid=112419 and inputting the information into the advanced settings for 'Line 1' in the configuration utility.

As suggested I swapped the Orcon Genius router with a generic D-Link ADSL2+ router

I set the dial plan as 
(#|*xx|*0xx.|[2-9]xxxxxx|xxxS1|0210xxxxxxx|0211xxxxxx|021[2-9]xxxxx|02[0279]xxxxxxx|0240xxxxxx|024[1-9]xxxxxxx|028[0134567]xxxxxx|028[289]xxxxxxx|026[1-3]xxxxx|0264xxxxxx|0[34679][0-9]xxxxxx|0508xxxxxx|070xxxxxxx|080[0-8]xxxxxx|1xxx|08[2-3]xxx|01681x.|083201234|014xx|015xxx|017[02]|00x.)

Thanks to all for their help.

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  Reply # 786052 23-Mar-2013 20:15
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Good work on getting it going, but to be totally honest I'm still not sure why you didn't just plug the phone into the Genius and save yourself all the effort you had to go to.


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