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Topic # 96692 2-Feb-2012 16:23
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Im looking at changing my ISP and going to a new provider. But thinking about going for Naked ADSL rather than paying for home phone as well.

I still need a home phone for the odd call I get, like grandparents etc who dont have mobile phones.

Can I simply get something like this product below and just plug my modem and phone into it. Then be still able to use my home phone. Or does some conforation need to be done.

Also what happens to my phone number as I presume I would lose that, what number do you give people to call you on.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10026/index.html



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  Reply # 576364 2-Feb-2012 16:48
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You mean noob I hope :)

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  Reply # 576368 2-Feb-2012 16:57
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bbunnys: Im looking at changing my ISP and going to a new provider. But thinking about going for Naked ADSL rather than paying for home phone as well.

I still need a home phone for the odd call I get, like grandparents etc who dont have mobile phones.

Can I simply get something like this product below and just plug my modem and phone into it. Then be still able to use my home phone. Or does some conforation need to be done.

Also what happens to my phone number as I presume I would lose that, what number do you give people to call you on.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10026/index.html



You can still keep your number, just tell them while signing up for a plan with a VOIP provider.  This cisco device will let you use your home phone on broadband but you will need to configure your VOIP account details, it's not very hard.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 577070 3-Feb-2012 23:32
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You can always keep your number no matter what provider you have.

If you were to get your VOIP service from 2talk you would sign up with a free account first the login to the live website (your account) go to plans and services then port a number and select port a number to 2talk and follow the instructions. Once 2talk have ported your number get a SPA2102 plug it in, login to your 2talk account go to provisioning and follow the the guide to auto provision your SPA2102 and you should be good to go.

VFX also have Auto provisioning but you must buy the ATA from them or some other VFX dealer.




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  Reply # 577102 4-Feb-2012 07:31
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techmeister: VFX also have Auto provisioning but you must buy the ATA from them or some other VFX dealer.


As long as it is the correct model (i.e. not a variant locked for use in another country), I'm pretty sure you can purchase from anywhere.

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  Reply # 577109 4-Feb-2012 08:07
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RunningMan:
techmeister: VFX also have Auto provisioning but you must buy the ATA from them or some other VFX dealer.


As long as it is the correct model (i.e. not a variant locked for use in another country), I'm pretty sure you can purchase from anywhere.


Yip - it's simply a URL to a provisioning server. If you buy a VFX branded device this comes already configured so the device will self provision itself. If you buy a non VFX branded device you'll need to log in the device and enter the provisioning URL.




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  Reply # 577112 4-Feb-2012 08:28
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Ok, 

Thanks for the replys.

From what I gather as long as I have ADSL2 internet and sign up with a service like 2talk and get a SPA2102 im good to go.

Then just got to configure my SPA2102 along with 2talk account. 

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  Reply # 577158 4-Feb-2012 11:41
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Setting up an ata with 2talk is pretty easy. My preference has been the WRP400 which you can get usually on trademe for less than $100. But I have now just got naked BB with Vofafone and the modem router supplied by them HG556a has built in ata and very very easy to set up with 2talk as explained in other threads. You can buy the HG556a on Tm for well under $100 if you use another provider.

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  Reply # 577159 4-Feb-2012 11:43
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Also note you dont have to have asdl2. any BB is pretty much enough. BB though a vodem will also be fine if you have excellent reception or with a Yagi if you have minimal reception.

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  Reply # 577188 4-Feb-2012 13:09
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bbunnys: Ok, 

Thanks for the replys.

From what I gather as long as I have ADSL2 internet and sign up with a service like 2talk and get a SPA2102 im good to go.

Then just got to configure my SPA2102 along with 2talk account. 


If you are new to this, I would recommend going with a provider that has a greater level of support, such as WorldxChange. This will insure a smooth changeover, including the Internet connection. But it is up to you.

Also, don't go with the SPA2102 - it is now an old device. I'd pick either a SPA112 or and all in one SRP527. The quality and reliability of these newer devices is noticeably better.

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  Reply # 577200 4-Feb-2012 13:58
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allstar1: Setting up an ata with 2talk is pretty easy. My preference has been the WRP400 which you can get usually on trademe for less than $100. But I have now just got naked BB with Vofafone and the modem router supplied by them HG556a has built in ata and very very easy to set up with 2talk as explained in other threads. You can buy the HG556a on Tm for well under $100 if you use another provider.


A WRP400 isn't a good recommendation for somebody on DSL. They're also going to need another DSL modem configured in bridge mode, something that's not necessarily easy for the average person to do unless they're willing to buy a Draytek 120.


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  Reply # 577201 4-Feb-2012 14:00
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coffeebaron:
Also, don't go with the SPA2102 - it is now an old device. I'd pick either a SPA112 or and all in one SRP527. The quality and reliability of these newer devices is noticeably better.

   


This would only be true depending on what you will be using the ATA for.
e.g. I'm still using an old linksys/cisco PAP2T and it has worked flawlessly for the two plus years I have had it connected.
I only have a single phone line and no fax and it is perfectly acceptable for this config. Voice quality is as good as spa2102 or the newer spa112 depending on codec used.
If you want greater redundancy or to use fax etc then the newer spa112 would be better in that case. Also, if you want to use the built in router then stay away from the spa2102 as I understand it is not that great.


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  Reply # 577217 4-Feb-2012 14:45
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farcus:
coffeebaron:
Also, don't go with the SPA2102 - it is now an old device. I'd pick either a SPA112 or and all in one SRP527. The quality and reliability of these newer devices is noticeably better.

   


This would only be true depending on what you will be using the ATA for.
e.g. I'm still using an old linksys/cisco PAP2T and it has worked flawlessly for the two plus years I have had it connected.
I only have a single phone line and no fax and it is perfectly acceptable for this config. Voice quality is as good as spa2102 or the newer spa112 depending on codec used.
If you want greater redundancy or to use fax etc then the newer spa112 would be better in that case. Also, if you want to use the built in router then stay away from the spa2102 as I understand it is not that great.


I have upgraded several of my customers form the SPA2102 to SRP527, and just installed a new SPA112. Feedback is a very noticeable improvement in voice quality and reliability. You can get an SPA112 for a little under $100. 




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, data cabling and general computer support for home and small business.
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  Reply # 577220 4-Feb-2012 14:54
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farcus:
coffeebaron:
Also, don't go with the SPA2102 - it is now an old device. I'd pick either a SPA112 or and all in one SRP527. The quality and reliability of these newer devices is noticeably better.

   


This would only be true depending on what you will be using the ATA for.
e.g. I'm still using an old linksys/cisco PAP2T and it has worked flawlessly for the two plus years I have had it connected.
I only have a single phone line and no fax and it is perfectly acceptable for this config. Voice quality is as good as spa2102 or the newer spa112 depending on codec used.
If you want greater redundancy or to use fax etc then the newer spa112 would be better in that case. Also, if you want to use the built in router then stay away from the spa2102 as I understand it is not that great.



Voice quality of the PAP2 IMHO isn't quite as good as the SPA2102. There is also a very noticeable difference in voice quality between the older PAP2/SPA hardware and the newer generation SRP500 series and new SPA hardware. This isn't a codec thing, it's obviously just far better A/D conversion.

SPA2102 can only route around 7.5Mbps when used as a NAT router.




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  Reply # 577238 4-Feb-2012 16:00
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allstar1: Setting up an ata with 2talk is pretty easy. My preference has been the WRP400 which you can get usually on trademe for less than $100. But I have now just got naked BB with Vofafone and the modem router supplied by them HG556a has built in ata and very very easy to set up with 2talk as explained in other threads. You can buy the HG556a on Tm for well under $100 if you use another provider.


I found with the HG556a I got that it was easy but not as straight forward as putting in a few settings. I found I had to telnet into the modem/router and put in a command "voice set all enable " to activate the sip account otherwise you could not tick the checkbox Active sip account.

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  Reply # 577252 4-Feb-2012 16:33
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sbiddle:Voice quality of the PAP2 IMHO isn't quite as good as the SPA2102. There is also a very noticeable difference in voice quality between the older PAP2/SPA hardware and the newer generation SRP500 series and new SPA hardware. This isn't a codec thing, it's obviously just far better A/D conversion.


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