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  #610479 17-Apr-2012 12:47
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Windows 8 pro for me. Bitlocker encryption. Bitlocker to Go. x86/x64 apps will run along with metro apps, Group policy and Domain join.

Should be popular with businesses.




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  #610482 17-Apr-2012 12:50
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Am I reading that correctly in that if you want Windows Media Center you need to buy Windows 8 Pro plus the WMC addon?
Or is it included with Windows 8?




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  #610483 17-Apr-2012 12:51
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"Trusted boot" = UEFI secure boot = locked bootloader?




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  #610494 17-Apr-2012 13:05
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CYaBro: Am I reading that correctly in that if you want Windows Media Center you need to buy Windows 8 Pro plus the WMC addon?
Or is it included with Windows 8?


I read it that you need to buy the add-on, but I may be wrong

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  #610506 17-Apr-2012 13:30
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alexx: "Trusted boot" = UEFI secure boot = locked bootloader?


Only on Windows RT (ARM) machines. For x86/x64 machines, it's up to the OEM whether they wish to provide you with the option to lock/unlock bootloader.




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  #610517 17-Apr-2012 13:43
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CYaBro: Am I reading that correctly in that if you want Windows Media Center you need to buy Windows 8 Pro plus the WMC addon?
Or is it included with Windows 8?


You will need to purchase the Pro edition and on top of that you will need to purchase an media pack add on that will cover the licenses for Dolby pro and codec licenses.




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  #610527 17-Apr-2012 14:08
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billgates:

You will need to purchase the Pro edition and on top of that you will need to purchase an media pack add on that will cover the licenses for Dolby pro and codec licenses.


Which means the prices without WMC will be cheaper right...? :)




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  #610538 17-Apr-2012 14:37
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I think good move from MS with less versions of Windows, especially only one version for tablets with Win RT. Fragmentation of OSes in an emerging device category with only one other competitor is the last thing MS wants to do to establish itself.

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  #610541 17-Apr-2012 14:39
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I think having a set of products called Windows 8 and an individual edition also being called Windows 8 is going to cause confusion. I suspect that the community will start calling it "Windows 8 Standard" or something to distinguish it but it'd be nice to nip this in the bud before it starts...

If I'm not mistaken:
Windows 8 is the "basic" edition of Windows 8.
WinRT is the runtime in Windows RT which is an edition of Windows 8.

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  #610594 17-Apr-2012 15:25
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Behodar:
...WinRT is the runtime in Windows RT which is an edition of Windows 8.


No, WinRT as I understand it is a technology\implementation allowing a wider range of developers (C++, HTML\JS, etc)   to build XAML based UI applications (though you can swap the XAML for HTML\CSS)...

Read: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Sep-15.html


EDIT: Oops, ok, you're refering to "Windows RT" - effectively an ARM implementation of Windows 8 which you can only buy pre-installed on ARM tablets.




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  #610785 17-Apr-2012 20:24
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sidefx:
billgates:

You will need to purchase the Pro edition and on top of that you will need to purchase an media pack add on that will cover the licenses for Dolby pro and codec licenses.


Which means the prices without WMC will be cheaper right...? :)



the add-on pack might only cost $10 or $20... so don't expect the windows price to drop much (I have no idea).... Might not seem like much for a user, but the overall savings for Microsoft would be enormous - they wouldn't be paying codec license fees for millions of copies of windows that don't really need the licenses.




 
 
 

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  #610794 17-Apr-2012 20:36
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Regs: the add-on pack might only cost $10 or $20... so don't expect the windows price to drop much (I have no idea).... Might not seem like much for a user, but the overall savings for Microsoft would be enormous - they wouldn't be paying codec license fees for millions of copies of windows that don't really need the licenses.

Quite true. Volumes of add-on packs sold will also give them quite a clear picture of how widely (or not) WMC is actually used and, therefore, whether or not to persist with the product in the future. Hopefully they will.

W8 isn't for me though, I'll be looking to see what W9 brings.

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  #610802 17-Apr-2012 20:42
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Does that mean they will also include support for the mheg5 EPG?




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  #610866 17-Apr-2012 22:42
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"Volumes of add-on packs sold will also give them quite a clear picture of how widely (or not) WMC is actually used":

"Our opt-in usage telemetry shows that in July, Windows Media Center was launched by 6% of Windows 7 users globally with the heaviest usage in Russia, Mexico, and Brazil (frequency and time). However, most people are just looking around; only one quarter (25% of 6%) of these people used it for more than 10 minutes per session (individual averages), and in 59% of Media Center sessions (by these 6% of users) we see almost no activity (less than a minute or two of usage"
  - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/02/reflecting-on-our-first-conversations-part-2.aspx

"Does that mean they will also include support for the mheg5 EPG?"  

There isn't any change to the mheg5 EPG support in the consumer preview version I have installed.  The use of big screen epg and/or epg collector however renders this as a non-issue for me.





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  #610882 17-Apr-2012 23:26
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I wish MS would go back to names, makes google searches much easier and more relevant, windows vista searches were almost always what you wanted, windows 7, not so much!

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