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#11395 20-Jan-2007 18:07

Does anyone here or anyone at all know when Windows Vista SP1 will be released?

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#58403 20-Jan-2007 18:22

Last i heard was late 07, when Longhorn is released.

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#58404 20-Jan-2007 18:54

correct, 2nd half of this year, around the same time as Windows Server "Longhorn" RTMs

You're not waiting for SP1 until you start running Windows Vista are you? :)

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#58405 20-Jan-2007 19:23

nathan: You're not waiting for SP1 until you start running Windows Vista are you? :)

Yes... aren't you? SP1 should solve the drivers PITA and maybe even make Firefox/Thunderbird work properly. :P

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#58406 20-Jan-2007 19:59

Care to explain what's the relationship of SP1 and drivers? Drivers are supplied by manufacturers, not the OS developers. If you can't find a driver for your device, blame on the manufacturer...

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#58407 20-Jan-2007 20:08

Well, it is a symbiotic relationship between the OS and the third-party driver developers. Unless the latter are very good at second-guessing the APIs/ABIs of the former, there is a dependency to the OS developer for the driver writers.

That's one thing, but I was disappointed to install Vista RTM and finding that I had to hunt around for drivers - and wait for them for months - because the ones included in the base OS were either substantially missing in features or didn't activate the hardware in question at all.

Obviously, Vista is uncharted territory for everyone, Microsoft included, which is why I think it won't shine until SP1.

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#58409 20-Jan-2007 21:26

That's why Windows Vista had a long Beta cycle, RC1, RC2... Many companies I contacted before replied "we will wait until consumer availability".

This is no way to treat the users. And it's not Microsoft's fault...

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#58412 20-Jan-2007 22:17

Opinion :

I would see no reason for Microsoft not to follow the strategy that they already follow with Windows XP, and that is to release fixes for critical issues as soon as possible. Generally, a large quantity of the issues that are resolved by a Windows Service Pack have already been released well in advance on Windows Update, and a Service Pack is just a rollup of those issues.

If you strike a critical issue with Windows I would expect it to be resolved well before the first service pack release.

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#58413 20-Jan-2007 22:55

juha: ...I was disappointed to install Vista RTM and finding that I had to hunt around for drivers - and wait for them for months - because the ones included in the base OS were either substantially missing in features or didn't activate the hardware in question at all.

In my experience it never pays to be too much on the "bleeding edge" of Windows upgrades. You just waste a lot of time that could have been avoided by waiting for another few months.

juha:
Obviously, Vista is uncharted territory for everyone, Microsoft included, which is why I think it won't shine until SP1.

Agreed.

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For those of us that just want our computer to do a job without having to go through a whole lot of hassle, it will pay to let all the bright-eyed bushy-tailed "Early Adopters" find all the bugs for us.

For developers and/or MVPs like Mauricio, Brad and others, this approach is obviously not viable because it is their job to get things working in advance of when their customers could reasonably be expected to upgrade.

In my case, I've been there/done that at an earlier stage of my career and am happy to sit back and let all the bugs be ironed out before I look at jumping on board. After all, what's the hurry? XP still works just fine and I can wait a bit longer for the whizzy "Aero" interface and other goodies.

My 2c worth...
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#58847 25-Jan-2007 18:11

That's very interesting.

Rant mode: On.

It reminds me of when XP came out. Amazingly enough when XP came out I said 'this is just like when Windows 2000 came out'.

When Windows 2000 came out it reminded me of when Windows 95 came out.

The new Windows is found to have compatibility problems, be riddled with security holes and Microsoft gets sued for something to do with the game Monopoly. The newest addition to the explosions is the whole digital rights management thing.

EOR: End of rant.