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#243303 5-Dec-2018 12:57

Has anyone else noticed that as soon as you set Windows 10 to use HDR the fonts go all jagged - mostly on Microsoft Office applications.

No amount of ClearType tune, monitor settings get this to work well...

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#2139804 5-Dec-2018 13:28

Did you sign out? Sometimes you need to sign out for things to take affect.

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#2139871 5-Dec-2018 13:43

Yes, restarted the PC.

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#2139875 5-Dec-2018 13:53

Hardly surprising.

EDIT: That comment of mine was a bit douchey :) I mean, it is hardly surprising, but it's also a bummer. Windows is such a behemoth, with such a swathe of different hardware to support, it stands to reason features come half baked. This is why the new update cadence is a good thing, rather than having to wait for big point releases they are hopefully able to fix these sorts of issues over a matter of months instead. HDR is still kinda new even with display support being around for a while. In the same way 4K displays existed for a while before graphics card support for that resolution became ubiquitous.

I wonder how much Netflix viewing goes on via Windows. If it's a high percentage then things like that would likely increase demand for quality HDR on Windows. Does YouTube support HDR yet?

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#2139877 5-Dec-2018 14:02

HDR seems to be the bastard child of so many poorly managed standards.

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#2139883 5-Dec-2018 14:12

Also this - can you guess which one is "HDR"?

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#2139885 5-Dec-2018 14:14

I watched a good video on why HDR was such a mess for desktop computing recently, I can't find it unfortunately. Basically, after reading this, I wil not be spending $1 on HDR for my PC for a while.

I have only seen 1-2 games where it's been worthwhile, though in some movies, it's amazing.

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#2139887 5-Dec-2018 14:15

TBH I'm not sure I get the point of running a desktop in HDR. Videos and games maybe, and HDR should kick in when you launch a supported video or game, but for standard desktop computing?

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#2139888 5-Dec-2018 14:17

Yes, I was trying to use VLC to play some 4K HDR demo videos I received. These screenshots show is not a monitor problem but a Windows/drivers problem.

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#2139889 5-Dec-2018 14:17

networkn:

I have only seen 1-2 games where it's been worthwhile, though in some movies, it's amazing.

It's like the 3D bandwagon that everyone got on. If 3D is done properly it's amazing, but you need to film in 3D and plan for it throughout. Post conversion is a world of hurt. HDR when planned and implemented throughout is excellent (e.g. Horizon Zero Dawn), but if it's slapped on near the end you get Red Dead Redemption 2 :)

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#2139891 5-Dec-2018 14:22

freitasm:

These screenshots show is not a monitor problem but a Windows/drivers problem.

What's your GPU?

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#2139893 5-Dec-2018 14:24

NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti.

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#2139895 5-Dec-2018 14:25

gehenna:

networkn:

I have only seen 1-2 games where it's been worthwhile, though in some movies, it's amazing.

It's like the 3D bandwagon that everyone got on. If 3D is done properly it's amazing, but you need to film in 3D and plan for it throughout. Post conversion is a world of hurt. HDR when planned and implemented throughout is excellent (e.g. Horizon Zero Dawn), but if it's slapped on near the end you get Red Dead Redemption 2 :)

I agree entirely. I have to say, I am a massive fan of 3D, initially i thought it was a crock, but with a decent projector on a decent source, it's breathtaking. It's a shame to see it's not being included in new units as much due to the poor implementation issues people had.

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#2139948 5-Dec-2018 15:36

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NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti.

Is that using the latest Nvidia driver or the Windows driver version?

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#2140027 5-Dec-2018 18:31

The NVIDIA drivers. Updated as soon as they come out - usually I receive a press release with the update notes.

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#2140032 5-Dec-2018 18:51

Unfortunately, none of my devices meet the requirements for HDR10, I dont have a 7th gen cpu, display port/HDMI2.0a or HDCP2.2 complient monitor - so the HDR setting does not appear in display properties.

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