upgrading to win 10

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#255619 21-Aug-2019 11:44

I have decided my HDD is too small and have a new one
I was going to reload win 7 and upgrade to win 10. Back in the dim darks Microsoft set me a log in number to upgrade it consists of mostly 0.s with 9 numbers and letters, would this still be valid?

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#2302937 21-Aug-2019 12:34

Doesn't sound like a product key. I'd do the inplace upgrade of win7 to win10 using your current hard drive, and sign in with a microsoft account. This should link the activation to your microsoft account and computer.

Then install the new HDD and install win10 fresh, which should activate from the upgrade licence.

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#2303012 21-Aug-2019 13:48

I'd try a fresh install of Win 10 with your Win 7 key. I've found they still activate ok.

And if it doesn't work you've only lost 10 minutes :)

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#2303041 21-Aug-2019 14:34

You can just use your Windows 7 license, reload straight to Windows 10 and put the license for Windows 7 in when asked for a license, if it fails continue without it and do it once you are in the Windows 10.

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#2306034 26-Aug-2019 11:32

All good, got a copy of win 10 loaded And immediately got the black screen of death.
This is on a brand new HDD with a brand new copy of win 7 on it to use as an upgrade It loaded fine. Got into safe mode and did a reload and it was going good, then I looked away and the screen went black again Then the girl asked me questions and I could not answer as I cant see the screen. And said I cannot go on
I thought ok I will take the plunge and upgrade as win 7 was a doddle with no problems, and as I had a new drive I thought it would be the same, with 2 new operating systems But as usual micro$oft bit me on the arse ...again

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#2306462 26-Aug-2019 20:49

half1:

All good, got a copy of win 10 loaded And immediately got the black screen of death.
This is on a brand new HDD with a brand new copy of win 7 on it to use as an upgrade It loaded fine. Got into safe mode and did a reload and it was going good, then I looked away and the screen went black again Then the girl asked me questions and I could not answer as I cant see the screen. And said I cannot go on
I thought ok I will take the plunge and upgrade as win 7 was a doddle with no problems, and as I had a new drive I thought it would be the same, with 2 new operating systems But as usual micro$oft bit me on the arse ...again

Sounds like graphics drivers not installed, if you have a graphics card take it out and plug your monitor into the onboard display ports and try again.

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#2306469 26-Aug-2019 21:09

There is no onboard graphics on my board just onboard sound

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#2306623 27-Aug-2019 10:06

half1:

All good, got a copy of win 10 loaded And immediately got the black screen of death.
This is on a brand new HDD with a brand new copy of win 7 on it to use as an upgrade It loaded fine. Got into safe mode and did a reload and it was going good, then I looked away and the screen went black again Then the girl asked me questions and I could not answer as I cant see the screen. And said I cannot go on
I thought ok I will take the plunge and upgrade as win 7 was a doddle with no problems, and as I had a new drive I thought it would be the same, with 2 new operating systems But as usual micro$oft bit me on the arse ...again

Sounds like you're trying to do a free upgrade after the window has finished to legitimately carry out this upgrade, will pass on your feedback however.

Thanks,

Micro$oft

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#2313026 8-Sep-2019 14:38

So we have had some progress. I have win 10 all but loaded. But now it seems there is a bug in versions after 1709 that prevents the create password option to be accepted in some cases
And guess what I have>>No password accepted. and no vt-n ?? option on my bios With the help a reinstall and a couple of repairs I am slowly getting there, but now the lady is talking and I have lost what graphics I had, again. Ho Hum.

Apple is looking a bit better every day

Well something has happened. I just saw the 'welcome to win 10' email on my other HHD

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#2313245 8-Sep-2019 21:08

half1:

Apple is looking a bit better every day

Dealing with a variety of systems on a daily basis, I wouldn't really say any operating system has a monopoly on lack of frustration, whatever side you're on, the grass isn't any greener.

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#2313798 9-Sep-2019 19:17

All good now. I was using another password and not my Micro$oft one and I clicked no pin number and blocked a lot of the spyware. So now you need to say yes to everything and it loves you. Had to load it 3 times before I sorted it out

And I even got the email telling me how good win 10 is
And its all good now, so its still free

Thank you for all your help guys

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#2313802 9-Sep-2019 19:26

Yeah it is still "free" to upgrade, don't know why people say it isn't - or at least for me so far, every Win 7 PC I've thrown the Win10 installer at in the past few months has happily installed and activated. Just don't think its advertised as a "free" upgrade anymore.

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#2313962 10-Sep-2019 08:45

xpd:

Yeah it is still "free" to upgrade, don't know why people say it isn't -

because its NOT.
MS have said that the free upgrade period is over
MS have also said that activation doesnt mean you have a valid license.

Yes it still works. But its basically no better than a pirated 10 install .

MS could put a stop to it, just like they could easily stop people installing Win & Office on multiple PC's with the same key . But they dont try & stop it .

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#2313974 10-Sep-2019 09:01

1101:

xpd:

Yeah it is still "free" to upgrade, don't know why people say it isn't -

because its NOT.
MS have said that the free upgrade period is over
MS have also said that activation doesnt mean you have a valid license.

Yes it still works. But its basically no better than a pirated 10 install .

MS could put a stop to it, just like they could easily stop people installing Win & Office on multiple PC's with the same key . But they dont try & stop it .

#swoon!

I get asked a heck of a lot with the upcoming EOS for Win7 in Jan 2020 about this. Thing I always say is that our Activation Servers aren't blindly going yes/no, there's a bit of data being collected around the hardware when it activates as a digital entitlement so it wouldn't take a lot for us to ask which devices activated outside of the upgrade with a Windows 7 or 8 key. What we do with that from there is up to us but you could end up looking very stupid if you rolled out illegal upgrades to your customers.

Then there's the moral aspect, you're basically advocating that its OK to rob someone if their door is unlocked...

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#2313978 10-Sep-2019 09:03

How is it no better than a pirated copy - we download the legit installer, and MS lets it activate. Its not theft. Its not hidden behind a locked door or anything.

It's different with office as a single key will work on multiple PC's. Windows 10 dosent - one key per system.

If MS claim its not valid/free, then they need to put it behind a paywall effectively. No access to it unless you've paid.

XPD / Gavin

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#2313983 10-Sep-2019 09:06

xpd:

How is it no better than a pirated copy - we download the legit installer, and MS lets it activate. Its not theft. Its not hidden behind a locked door or anything.

It's different with office as a single key will work on multiple PC's. Windows 10 dosent - one key per system.

If MS claim its not valid/free, then they need to put it behind a paywall effectively. No access to it unless you've paid.

So I can rob your house if you leave it unlocked?

Office will stop activating, you get a max number of activation before it will stop working and you need to call support.

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