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Topic # 26097 11-Sep-2008 20:51
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What does that mean...other than the obvious?
What have I done?
Or not done?

I am trying to install Microsoft Vista on a new build (my HTPC), and turned everything on for the first time, hooked up to tv and got it to post, then come up with system disk error, so all good there...

Went to install Vista, and the installation began, got past the language and product key stage....then I got a blue screen of death! (this is a legit install, brought new today)

So I turned of power and went to try again, and now as it boots up, it comes up with an error stating 'BootMGR is missing'.....and wont go any further, only allows a reboot (to do all the same again)

What has gone wrong?
Have I done something, or not done something?

Any help appreciated.




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  Reply # 163858 11-Sep-2008 20:58
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It's probably reading something from the hard drive, from the corrupt install.

Try formatting the drive (if the disc doesn't boot, then try other tools) and try to install again.




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  Reply # 163859 11-Sep-2008 21:11
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manhinli: It's probably reading something from the hard drive, from the corrupt install.

Try formatting the drive (if the disc doesn't boot, then try other tools) and try to install again.

Ummmm......normally a format using the original system disk is easy, but it does not appear to be letting me do that, its not giving that option when I bootup with the Vista disk...
 
It keeps coming back to the error 'bootmgr is missing'

How can I format it now then?

And not that I can expect an aswer to this, but why did the install fail in the first place?




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  Reply # 163861 11-Sep-2008 21:17
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could just be bad luck, really.

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  Reply # 163862 11-Sep-2008 21:17
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TheBartender:
manhinli: It's probably reading something from the hard drive, from the corrupt install.

Try formatting the drive (if the disc doesn't boot, then try other tools) and try to install again.

Ummmm......normally a format using the original system disk is easy, but it does not appear to be letting me do that, its not giving that option when I bootup with the Vista disk...
 
It keeps coming back to the error 'bootmgr is missing'

How can I format it now then?

And not that I can expect an aswer to this, but why did the install fail in the first place?

There are plenty of system rescue type discs you can get online to format the drive.

I've had the problem of a perfectly normal Vista system screwed up - and trying to use the install/recovery disc to boot off will go past the loading bar, but completely hang afterwards. For some strange reason, it seems to also be attached to the install on the HDD.

A quick wipe with GParted got that fixed (this was ages ago, when I first got my Vista laptop)

I don't know what could happen, but after you enter the key and agree with the license, you are presented with the option to Upgrade (obviously disabled now) and Custom, which then leads on to the drive/partition selection, so something with the hard drive? (or hard drive interfacing from motherboard?)

But anything could happen anytime...




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manhinli: I don't know what could happen, but after you enter the key and agree with the license, you are presented with the option to Upgrade (obviously disabled now) and Custom, which then leads on to the drive/partition selection, so something with the hard drive? (or hard drive interfacing from motherboard?)

I initially got past the Custom and partition stages, and the OS was going through the install steps when it crashed and came up with the blue screen of death...

I was wondering if I had installed something incorrectly, as this is my first build.

I want to try and fix it myself, and have that satisfaction of knowing I built it all myself, but if I cannot figure it out I guess I just take it to a pro Cry

manhinli: A quick wipe with GParted got that fixed (this was ages ago, when I first got my Vista laptop)

I will try that when I get home from work this morning.




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  Reply # 164016 12-Sep-2008 16:00
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I was just tired and not thinking.

To get the Vista disk to boot and reinstall all I had to do was change the boot device priority in setup/bios...

But she has just crashed again, blue screen on death...hmmmmm....




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  Reply # 164018 12-Sep-2008 16:03
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TheBartender: I was just tired and not thinking.

To get the Vista disk to boot and reinstall all I had to do was change the boot device priority in setup/bios...

But she has just crashed again, blue screen on death...hmmmmm....

... and I thought you would have done that in the first place! Smile

Crashing again just after entering the key?




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  Reply # 164071 12-Sep-2008 18:31
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manhinli: ... and I thought you would have done that in the first place! Smile

Crashing again just after entering the key?

I was tired bud, diddn't think...I'm currently doing night shifts on the Interislander (9pm - 6am or later if ship is running late)

Its gets to the install stage, and then either hangs, or blue screen of death....I have tried 4 times now with the no success, it appears to fail in different places each time though....




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  Reply # 164073 12-Sep-2008 18:34
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I would suggest that you look at running a memory(ram) testing tool. Aswell as a HDD testing too.



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  Reply # 164345 14-Sep-2008 15:26
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I made a boot disk with many testing tools (Ultimate Boot CD)

I am currently running a memory testing tool (Memtest86), its so far been going for 54 minutes and appears to be only 11% finished?....WTF....is this serious?

I will test the HDD next, maybe try the DLG Diagnostic (Western Digital) tool, since thats the brand of my HDD's

I should point out this is all new to me and I am guessing as I go to what I am doing and how to read the results...




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  Reply # 164346 14-Sep-2008 15:30
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Memtest86 is easy to read - there should be a list of addresses in memory that fail the test (so if you see nothing listed, then your computers memory is fine)

And yes, it takes a looonnnggg time as the tests are specific and repeated.




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  Reply # 164419 15-Sep-2008 01:29
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Ok...

I have tested the memory using Memtest86 with no issues reported.
I have tested the HDD with DLG Diagnostic (Western Digital) with no issues reported.

I then went to try installing Vista again...
I actually got further this time, it completed all the install stages and was doing its first reboot....and then I got the blue screen of death again.

I have run the pc in the Ultimate Boot CD window for hours non stop with no issues (the memory test took 3 hours)...it just seems to be when I try to install windows, it collapes in a heap?

What can I try now?




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  Reply # 164460 15-Sep-2008 11:07
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Have a crack at these options

 

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/72560-blue-screen-death-during-vista-install.html

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/160102-blue-screen-death-vista-install.html

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/15466-geforce-7950gx2-causes-bsod-vista-install.html

http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30107482/bsod-during-vista-install.aspx

 

Hope these help you out ;)




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Ughhh!

I am obviously not a patient knowledgeable system builder...I just can't be bothered with issue after issue....

I found the initial install problem was actually a DOA ram stick, which my initial test did not pick up.

But now I am in windows, I am noticing a bunch of other things, which I am trying to resolve 1 by 1...
1) Graphics adapter not being picked up by performance tool, giving rating of 1 so no aero graphics...I have installed just the drivers on the disk provided disk, and now the screen in just going black half way through boot-up, so I cant get into windows now. 
2) No sound (I am assuming I need to install some realtek HD sound drivers, but would have thought this would have worked from default)
3) The number 5 is being typed non stop, but its not the keyboard (I tested keyboard with another PC)
4) Device manager showing 2 issues/incorrectly installed components.

I admit I am just being impatient here, I have yet to try every fix...I just wanna get in and play with my new toy.




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  Reply # 164923 16-Sep-2008 20:20
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What is your HTPC made of?

Graphics being not detected for Aero could be from poorer generic drivers - and I personally would have gotten new ones online.

Sound - is it integrated? If it is, it's usually part of the chipset drivers and probably won't work until they're installed as each chipset interfaces differently.

Repeated character - don't know...

2 devices? Look up the DEVID online for them.




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