Bad performance since moving from RC to final windows 7

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#58567 15-Mar-2010 04:16

Since I have put a final version of windows 7 on my machine, I can't do basic file moves etc between drives.

Shifting around my large downloaded files (350 meg - 1.1 gigs) to sort them out onto various USB and/or firewire drives is impossible.

The file copy dialog just stops, the green animates but cancel does nothing. if I have 5 dialogs open copying, they all die at the same time. If I try to dir on a drive in a command prompt when its like that, it will freeze that command window. eventually it all frees up again.

Machine runs ok for other tasks while its like this. If I move 13 large files (350 megs) then it will usually move a couple before it freezes.

The same drives and hardware would work passable on the RC (I say passable since USB and firewire always has sucked for drives) - Tried the WD drives on both firewire and USB and it is the same on both. Doesnt seem to matter if I am going between 2 USB drives, or a esata to USB or vice versa, or even between the internal SATAs and another one, same thing happens.

Any idea to troubleshoot what is causing everything to jam up like that? The CPU isnt spiking massivly or anything while this is going on, music playing keeps playing, outlook keeps on outlooking.

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#307247 15-Mar-2010 06:15

Have you tried doing this while you are not running anything else, like, playing music?
Playing music uses alot of resources as it is. Especially if you are using Microsoft's Media Player.

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#307268 15-Mar-2010 08:49

I had similar problems when I first installed Win7 x64 on my comp. It would just do strange stuff. Turned out to be the RAID controller on my motherboard amongst other things. Disabled that, ditched the old sound card, reinstalled and its worked perfect ever since.

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#307309 15-Mar-2010 10:08

Did you do an upgrade from RC to RTM, or a fresh install ? Microsoft strongly recommends that you don't do the upgrade, and install afresh

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#307314 15-Mar-2010 10:16

i've found it (and vista too) cannot handle copying/moving 2 things (ie more than 1 file transfer window) at once.

if your file manipulation requires opening 2 windows/more it will freeze.
if your usb has many pictures it will freeze if you move files when it's trying to create thumbnails or whatever the green progress highlight on the top is indicating.

just my 2c.

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#307340 15-Mar-2010 11:19

joker97: i've found it (and vista too) cannot handle copying/moving 2 things (ie more than 1 file transfer window) at once.

if your file manipulation requires opening 2 windows/more it will freeze.
if your usb has many pictures it will freeze if you move files when it's trying to create thumbnails or whatever the green progress highlight on the top is indicating.

just my 2c.

Hmm, that's a bit weird - saw that on the RC, but since installing the RTM, file transfers are a breeze. I have 4-5 file transfers happening simultaneously - across networks, across drives, to/from USB devices. Other than the HDD's going flatout, there doesn't appear to be any freeze ups or anything untoward.

However, that being said, I generally don't use thumbnail views. As soon as Win7 was up and running, I changed the default view to detail view, so perhaps thumbnail previews aren't generated until you actually highlight the file(s) in question.

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#307350 15-Mar-2010 11:54

Give TeraCopy a go, the free version is pretty good
http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php

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#307836 16-Mar-2010 14:52

I too have no problems with multiple file transfers at once. Win7 Pro, either on the RC1 or the Final.

I would check your Chipset drivers and update with manufacturers ones (rather than using the ones Win7 will have installed when it was setup)

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#307837 16-Mar-2010 14:54

I will give that a go, but I hadnt done that with RC. I was thinking it was more OS related since it is affecting prettymuch any copy operation firewise, USB on the onboard, IDE and esata.

Will be doing a new install when I get a few more bits together to build an i5 machine. this AMD sucks the power and does very little to show for it.

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#307978 16-Mar-2010 20:25

I've had no problems with win7_64. Would suggest doing a full install rather than an upgrade, and as suggested, removing old hardware or checking for new drivers.

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#308050 16-Mar-2010 22:55

do you have winrar installed? i had a whole lot of problems with explorer freezing when I was doing file operations - especially renaming folders - and they seemed to go away when i removed winrar. I reinstalled it again, then used some tool to suppress some of the shell integrations but cant remember which ones...

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#308053 16-Mar-2010 23:01

Yeah, do have winrar - its one of the first things to go on, will remove it and see if it helps. There were no rars in what I was moving tho, if I accidentally download a pain in the arse rar release I unrar it and stop seeding.

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#308094 17-Mar-2010 00:15

What AV are you running - is it doing a realtime scan on all read/writes?

I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code

#BOFH

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#308109 17-Mar-2010 01:07

avira - but same as before on RC so shouldnt make any difference. Will try with it off when fillig the external next time.

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#308110 17-Mar-2010 01:18

Also, might be worth trying this ;-)

Disable Superfetch and Remote Differential Compression.

Superfetch can be disabled by;
Going to start > right clicking Computer > Click Manage > Choose Services and Applications > Services
Find "Superfetch" in the list, and right click > Properties > Change "Startup Type" to "Disabled"
Then Hit "Stop" then "Apply"

Remote Differential Compression can be disabled by:
Going to Start: Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Programs and Features > "Turn Windows Features on or Off"
Uncheck Remote Differential Compression and Click OK.

Restart the computer after these changes.

I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code

#BOFH