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#154592 1-Nov-2014 14:17
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Can I slip an iBook question into this forum? Although I have a fair bit of Windows experience I am an absolute beginner where Apple is concerned. I need to get some software working on a G4 iBook running OSX Tiger 10.4.11.

 

Unfortunately, I have no understanding whatsoever of this OS. What I am trying to do is get Soylatte Java 6 to work on this machine. I have unpacked the software and copied it to the users folder but I cannot seem to get the Export PATH and JAVA_HOME commands to work in Terminal in order to make the system use Java 1.6 instead of 1.5. So far my research has only served to increase my confusion. It is supposed to be a simple thing to do but I have so little understanding of the way things work that even simple seems to be beyond my grasp. I would really appreciate some help here.

 

 





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  #1166482 1-Nov-2014 14:39
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Do you need 1.5 and 1.6 on the same machine? If not maybe uninstalling both and installing just the one you need might sort it out.

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  #1166499 1-Nov-2014 15:45
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gzt: Do you need 1.5 and 1.6 on the same machine? If not maybe uninstalling both and installing just the one you need might sort it out.

 

 

Thanks for the response. Bearing in mind that I know absolutely nothing about this, from what I have read apparently Apple never offered a 1.6 version for Tiger because they wanted to push people to upgrade. So there is nothing to install. The only solution is a third-party workaround, which is what Soylatte16 is. Apparently this gives Java 1.6 functionality to Tiger. I haven't found anything about installing it and there appears to be nothing in the package to install. From the website the way to make it work is supposed to be changing the PATH and JAVA_HOME variables to point at the Soylatte bin folder. This is supposed to be easy to do but I can't work it out and I don't understand the instructions I have found because I know nothing at all about the OS and how it works.

 





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  #1166669 1-Nov-2014 20:46
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Ok, just to check can you tell me why you need 1.6?

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  #1166689 1-Nov-2014 21:37
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gzt: Ok, just to check can you tell me why you need 1.6?

 

 

I am doing this for someone else who knows even less than I do. He has a program that only runs under 1.6 (we know that because it keeps complaining about 1.5 when we try to run it). However, he also has another program that won't work with OSX 10.5. So the OS cannot be upgraded but upgrading is normally the only way to get 1.6. Soylatte is the only way I have found to get 1.6 on OSX 10.4.

 





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  #1166695 1-Nov-2014 21:47
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Can you confirm you have a PowerPC version of Soylatte?

Where did you get it from?

Can you find the program named java from the Soylatte package and run

     lipo -info  ./java

Does it list just i386, ppc or both?

Can you run that program with

    ./java -version



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  #1166696 1-Nov-2014 21:48
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BTW, I expect Minecraft to run like a dog.

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  #1166810 2-Nov-2014 11:06
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roobarb: Can you confirm you have a PowerPC version of Soylatte?

Where did you get it from?

Can you find the program named java from the Soylatte package and run

     lipo -info  ./java

Does it list just i386, ppc or both?

Can you run that program with

    ./java -version


 

 

The ibook is definitely powerpc. When I run the -info command it says the Java file is architecture i386. I downloaded this: '32-bit JDK for Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5: soylatte16-i386-1.0.3.tar.bz2 (sig)' from here: http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/. We are not trying to run Minecraft on it, but some educational software.

 





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  #1166812 2-Nov-2014 11:07
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That won't work; the "i386" in the name (and confirmed by lipo) means that it's 32-bit Intel and won't run on a PowerPC. Indeed the title of the linked page is "SoyLatte: Java 6 Port for Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 (Intel)".

The only PowerPC-compatible Java 6 runtime that I'm aware of is the one included with OS 10.5. You mentioned incompatible software; anything in particular? Could there be an update available?

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  #1166834 2-Nov-2014 11:55
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I finally understand that what I was trying to do is not possible. I did not pay sufficient attention to the distinction between powerpc and i386. Thanks for the help anyway.




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