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# 172001 8-May-2015 08:17
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I'm migrating someone from having their email on a standard Linux VPS to Gmail for Business. That part's easy, done it many times, all done. The person however uses a Mac which I'm not that familiar with, and their email was downloaded to the machine using POP rather than IMAP, so I'd appreciate some pointers on a few things.

There are 30,000 odd emails on the mac, including around 25,000 spam.

 1) Can Mac Mail do spam filtering? Is it reliable? I'd like to knock out the spam before moving the actual useful email up to Google.

 2) I tried adding the Gmail Apps account alongside the existing account. Both have the same email address, but different servers - one is mail.domain.com (which is correct) and Gmail was added by the mac mail wizard so should hopefully be hard coding in "imap.gmail.com" rather than "mail.domain.com". It said "invalid credentials" or similar. Any thoughts? I may have to add manually, which should be easy enough, but remoting into a mac laptop was slow and I'm not that familiar with the interface.

 3) Any suggestions how to actually migrate the email up? On thunderbird I'd just right click, choose copy to, then the account.

I'll probably have to get myself a virtual mac to try some of this stuff out, I found www.macincloud.com which should do the job for $1/hr.

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  # 1300607 8-May-2015 12:24
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You could try:

0: Backup
1: Delete all the spam
2: Install/Setup Thunderbird, use tools import to import the Mac Mail emails
3: Thunderbird copy to gmail
4: Clean out Mac Mail, set it up for gmail
5: Uninstall Thunderbird

What version of Mac OS and Mail is it? Because Apple/Mac Mail behaviour with gmail imap changes in newer version (supposedly better).





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  # 1300630 8-May-2015 12:39
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No idea about versions sorry. Yes I could probably do it via Thunderbird, I'd try to do it directly first if I can. Maybe it's as easy as telling mac mail to copy to the gmail IMAP account? Based on this page I think it might be.

"Delete all spam" sounds easy when you say it like that, but when you have 15,000 spam messages mixed in with legitimate emails it's not so easy.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1300633 8-May-2015 12:44
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How about sending all the emails to yourself via Gmail and letting it do the filtering? It is pretty good at sorting spam from legitimate mails. Or maybe there is some kind of equivalent off-line filter you could download.





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  # 1300643 8-May-2015 12:55
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Rikkitic: How about sending all the emails to yourself via Gmail and letting it do the filtering? It is pretty good at sorting spam from legitimate mails. Or maybe there is some kind of equivalent off-line filter you could download.


I figure given 75% of emails are spam and Google limits incoming messages regardless of how them come in it would be best to try to get rid of some of the spam before it gets sent up to Google.

Mac Mail does have some spam filtering, so I'll just try turning it on.

I might get the user to export their email from mac mail, send that to me, and I'll do it from my PC or a cloud server. Actually that's probably impractical, there could be many GB of emails.



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  # 1301076 9-May-2015 09:48
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Warning: rant.

Mac mail is an absolute piece of garbage. There's no way I can see to manually specify email server settings. I'm migrating email from a standard server to Google Apps, so the same email address exists on two servers. When I set up the old server in Mac Mail it sees either the autoconfig or MX records I've put in place and just won't connect to the old server to download emails any more. I can work around it, but like many things mac it assumes the user is user is an idiot and needs to be protected from themselves. At least PCs do what I tell them to, even if it suggests otherwise.

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  # 1301080 9-May-2015 10:05
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I feel for you. I have had that same frustration so many times. However, I have it with Windows. I am constantly having to find ways to work around the stupidities of programmers who assume everyone else is as dumb as they are.





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