DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

MikeAqua: I am interested in how you deny ISIS the use of social media.  It's a powerful source of $ and recruits.

ISIS are presumably engaging in hate speech, soliciting murder and all sorts of other crimes.  Most of this is illegal in NZ and many other countries.

Where is the accountability of Facebook, Twitter et al?  

Find a way to prosecute them for publishing ISIS's hate speech.  Hammer them with fine, after fine, after until they invest enough moderation resource to deny ISIS a voice on their sites. 

Do the same to anyone who hosts ISIS's hate speech and can be reached by a member of a coalition of governments opposed to ISIS.

gzt:
Stating the obvious - twitter do take down Isis accounts. Although, I see Anonymous have been doing so also. The problem with this approach is that you end up just banning speech itself.

SaltyNZ:

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea, just that I want to know beforehand. Sheesh!

Geektastic:

SaltyNZ:

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea, just that I want to know beforehand. Sheesh!

I recall a cold war era film or TV program which included a line something like "Where do you want to be when the nukes start falling?" to which the reply was "Pissed as a fart and standing underneath the first one!"

Glassboy:

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

Then there'd be Aucklanders scattered through out the rest of the country, who the hell wants that?

TimA:

Glassboy:

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

Then there'd be Aucklanders scattered through out the rest of the country, who the hell wants that?

Auckland, That is excluding the shore right? Cause Shore ForShore?

Geektastic: 
I recall a cold war era film or TV program which included a line something like "Where do you want to be when the nukes start falling?" to which the reply was "Pissed as a fart and standing underneath the first one!"

gzt:
Stating the obvious - twitter do take down Isis accounts. Although, I see Anonymous have been doing so also. The problem with this approach is that you end up just banning speech itself.

MikeAqua: Yes but (stating the obvious) not fast enough. 

ISIS seems to create new accounts faster than mods can take them down - which really just means under resourcing of moderation by the website owner.  Just because a free account model is used, does not mean a lower ethical standard should be applied IMO.

And I'm OK with banning particularly offensive speech that incites criminal behaviour or is explicitly bigoted and offensive.

Hate speech is illegal in NZ.  For example, a person was convicted and fined in NZ for something like sending a Muslim family letters with pork in them.

Inciting violence and soliciting murder is illegal in NZ and that is a limitation on free speech.

networkn:

Geektastic:

SaltyNZ:

DarthKermit: I vote for nuking Auckland! 

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea, just that I want to know beforehand. Sheesh!

I recall a cold war era film or TV program which included a line something like "Where do you want to be when the nukes start falling?" to which the reply was "Pissed as a fart and standing underneath the first one!"

I feel hard done by now for having never consumed alcohol.