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cgrew:
You've been holding that view for quite some time now?
TheUngeek:
People who have shunned science are responsible for more dead than those at Nagasaki and Hiroshima
cgrew:TheUngeek:
People who have shunned science are responsible for more dead than those at Nagasaki and Hiroshima
That's a load of crap. The invention of the Atomic bomb is no different than playing a game of Russian roulette with oneself. Only difference being is that the Scientist's & various Governments put our planet at risk.
Even though there may only be 1 bullet and 999999 empty chambers, it's still a terrible risk.
Point being - not only were the scientist's themselves unsure of what the consequences could be neither was the government at the time. They took the risk regardless of what the possibilities could have been in fear of what stage the enemy was at in the development of atomic weaponry.
As I have mentioned before it was a rapid arms race during this period in the 40s & 50s to develop nuclear weapons.
In today's Industrialized Capitalist society where time & money are more important than safety & moral well-being, it's only a matter of time before one of those "what if" scenarios isn't properly studied and very quickly becomes a "the day when" scenario.
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cgrew: In today's Industrialized Capitalist society where time & money are more important than safety & moral well-being, it's only a matter of time before one of those "what if" scenarios isn't properly studied and very quickly becomes a "the day when" scenario.
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cgrew:TheUngeek:
People who have shunned science are responsible for more dead than those at Nagasaki and Hiroshima
That's a load of crap. The invention of the Atomic bomb is no different than playing a game of Russian roulette with oneself. Only difference being is that the Scientist's & various Governments put our planet at risk.
Even though there may only be 1 bullet and 999999 empty chambers, it's still a terrible risk.
Point being - not only were the scientist's themselves unsure of what the consequences could be neither was the government at the time. They took the risk regardless of what the possibilities could have been in fear of what stage the enemy was at in the development of atomic weaponry.
As I have mentioned before it was a rapid arms race during this period in the 40s & 50s to develop nuclear weapons.
In today's Industrialized Capitalist society where time & money are more important than safety & moral well-being, it's only a matter of time before one of those "what if" scenarios isn't properly studied and very quickly becomes a "the day when" scenario.
cgrew:TheUngeek:
People who have shunned science are responsible for more dead than those at Nagasaki and Hiroshima
That's a load of crap. The invention of the Atomic bomb is no different than playing a game of Russian roulette with oneself. Only difference being is that the Scientist's & various Governments put our planet at risk.
Even though there may only be 1 bullet and 999999 empty chambers, it's still a terrible risk.
Point being - not only were the scientist's themselves unsure of what the consequences could be neither was the government at the time. They took the risk regardless of what the possibilities could have been in fear of what stage the enemy was at in the development of atomic weaponry.
As I have mentioned before it was a rapid arms race during this period in the 40s & 50s to develop nuclear weapons.
In today's Industrialized Capitalist society where time & money are more important than safety & moral well-being, it's only a matter of time before one of those "what if" scenarios isn't properly studied and very quickly becomes a "the day when" scenario.
cgrew: The UN right now are discussing various ways to depopulate Earths population? Don?t any of you people find this concerning?
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cgrew: What good does something like that bring to society? And do you honestly think there are good benefits from it?
cgrew: No doubt "science" can be looked at as a process.
ScottStevensNZ:
1. there was no arms race prior to Sept 1, 1939 as most beligerents (even the axis ones) entered the war under equiped. Wester powers only started modernising when the realised that Germany was only becoming more agressive. Germany itself in 1939 had committed most of its military to the Eastern offensive leaving the Western front essentially undefended. After the invasion of the low countries and France in 1940 Great Britian had to Deny france further fighters as it had none to spare, Germany used a larger number of Czech tanks in the offensive that it captured after Czechoslavikia was absorbed into the Reich. The US army at this stage was roughly comparable in size to that of Yugoslavia.
2. Most atomic scientists - oppenheimer in particular were against developing a Fusion device. However, the physics of the initial atomic bomb were well understood by the time gadget was exploded, so much so that the gun design (aka little boy) was not even tested. The bet about 'Setting the atmosphere on fire' was calculated out to be essentially nil and was more of a dark joke than an accurate prediction.
3. When the bomb project was started there was very little intellegence on what the German bomb project looked like, however it was feared that Germany had (and indeed did) have extremely competant physcists and engineers and therefore it was seen prudent to win the race.
4. By the time the korean war started, the US had largely demobilised much of its conventional armed forces and had, if memory serves less than a dozen servicible nuclear weapons.
freitasm:
Link please, and from an official UN site, not from a third party conspiracy theory site.
cgrew:freitasm:
Link please, and from an official UN site, not from a third party conspiracy theory site.
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf
http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=521
Please note all comments are from my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.
cgrew:freitasm:
Link please, and from an official UN site, not from a third party conspiracy theory site.
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf
Given the demographic implications that have been drawn out, do any long-range threats emerge to human welfare? Since the focus here is on describing the demographic trends rather than assessing economic, social, political, environmental, or other consequences, this question is not answered but rather posed for others to consider.
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