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tchart

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#1317307 4-Jun-2015 11:43

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This upgrade is going to remove a lot of our privacy, increase traffic noise and place the bedroom windows right over the main road. The house is raised (single story), so the windows are easily above any legal fence height.

It should be possible to reduce traffic noise by installing double glazed windows with sound control glazing. Installing batts in the walls would go a long way to reducing traffic noise if you don't have wall insulation.

I know for a fact that when Mana Esplanade (Porirua) was widened the residents got double glazing thrown in to reduce road noise.

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#1317372 4-Jun-2015 13:19

Id organize a meeting with Council and try to negotiate the following

- Substantially high fence of appropriate material to negate noise
- Some dense low maintenance trees
- Double glazing on that side of house

Should be enough to mitigate any effect on your property.

Of course they have to agree, and you they need a legal obligation to do so

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#1317389 4-Jun-2015 13:46

tchart:
bfginger:
This upgrade is going to remove a lot of our privacy, increase traffic noise and place the bedroom windows right over the main road. The house is raised (single story), so the windows are easily above any legal fence height.

It should be possible to reduce traffic noise by installing double glazed windows with sound control glazing. Installing batts in the walls would go a long way to reducing traffic noise if you don't have wall insulation.

I know for a fact that when Mana Esplanade (Porirua) was widened the residents got double glazing thrown in to reduce road noise.

Some also got high fences and off street parking added.

But Mana Esplanade is a state highway so different rules likely apply to Council road mods.

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#1317411 4-Jun-2015 14:25

This is one of the outcomes of property investment.

Would you be giving money to the council if the roading changes increased your property value? Doubt it. Why should it go the other way too?

If you dont want to be exposed to things affecting your property values, then dont own property. To be honest this sort of thing is what holds up development of a city, typically done by older people who are more concerned about their own property values than the city being a livable place for an ever growing population.

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#1317907 5-Jun-2015 13:42

richms: This is one of the outcomes of property investment.

Would you be giving money to the council if the roading changes increased your property value? Doubt it. Why should it go the other way too?

If you dont want to be exposed to things affecting your property values, then dont own property. To be honest this sort of thing is what holds up development of a city, typically done by older people who are more concerned about their own property values than the city being a livable place for an ever growing population.

Thing is he is always giving money to council its called Rates

I believe council have an obligation to ensure that residents are not overly adversely affected by changes they make, its called good planning.

A fence and some trees are not a big cost in the scheme of the bigger project (the road changes). Double glazing might be a strecth, but there are benefits other than noise for the home owner to do that upgrade.

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#1318021 5-Jun-2015 15:57

tchart:
bfginger:
This upgrade is going to remove a lot of our privacy, increase traffic noise and place the bedroom windows right over the main road. The house is raised (single story), so the windows are easily above any legal fence height.

It should be possible to reduce traffic noise by installing double glazed windows with sound control glazing. Installing batts in the walls would go a long way to reducing traffic noise if you don't have wall insulation.

I know for a fact that when Mana Esplanade (Porirua) was widened the residents got double glazing thrown in to reduce road noise.

Double glazing does reduce sound but sound control glazing means using special techniques with the glass for a greater reduction in sound. I think PVC/plastic glazing spacers might transmit less sound than metal ones.
The joinery is an important factor too as some of the aluminium joinery made in NZ has looser seals than used in joinery overseas which allows more sound penetration, more so with sliders. I can remember more sound coming through a window after it was replaced with double glazing because of the different sealing techniques.

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#1318030 5-Jun-2015 16:17

I know first hand that concrete block wall can block a lot of the noise from a busy road, and would recommend getting one built if bedrooms are close.