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  #3212529 31-Mar-2024 16:33
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mattwnz:

 

Do other countries charge a surcharge? If they are going to get rid of these public holidays, then there would then be no reason for a surcharge anyway. I think shops being closed on Friday or Monday maybe overkill these day, but Sunday, one sunday a year, is fine IMO. Imagine if shops were open Xmas day, it would basically spoil the day. Most business however are closed on public holidays, and many take very long weekends over easter, and some extend it into a week or more. So it mainly nly affects retail, and people wanting to use hospitality services during this period. Or people shopping for groceries who don't want to be  paying OTT corner shop prices. 

 

 

It is relatively common for Australian businesses to surcharge on a public holiday. The bit that galls people is that many of the places that surcharge do so under the guise of "increased staffing costs" but have also been caught red-handed underpaying workers or using lopsided enterprise agreements to essentially dodge paying penalty rates - meaning they're just pocketing extra profit. Once restaurant chain is particularly bad, having a 15% Sunday surcharge, 20% public holiday surcharge, and a 10% Monday through Saturday surcharge! It's literally impossible to pay menu prices!




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  #3212530 31-Mar-2024 16:38
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 According to this, only New Year's Day is worse than Christmas in that regard.

 

That article is about homocides in the US. I don't think that really translates to NZ.


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  #3212533 31-Mar-2024 16:48
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mattwnz:

 

 

 

 

 

This is NZ, where we have 200 + years history of celebrating these particular holidays so it is part of NZs heritage. We celebrate Guy Fawkes too.

 

 

 

 

Yet it took 200 years to recognise and celebrate Matariki.





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  #3212534 31-Mar-2024 16:58
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Yet it took 200 years to recognise and celebrate Matariki.

 

 

In England it took until 664 CE to agree on the date of Easter.


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  #3212538 31-Mar-2024 17:15
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Surcharges should be banned. The extra costs should be built into the prices during the year. Imagine going to the supermarket or service station and they added 15% onto your bill. Also, I think that it's unfair that some business choose to shut or are forced to shit for today and the staff have to take AL or they don't get paid.

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  #3212550 31-Mar-2024 17:56
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roobarb:

 

That article is about homocides in the US. I don't think that really translates to NZ.

 

 

Okay, how about this?

 

 





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  #3212553 31-Mar-2024 18:05
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Rikkitic:

 

roobarb:

 

That article is about homocides in the US. I don't think that really translates to NZ.

 

 

Okay, how about this?

 

 

 

 

My time at the frontline of welfare I can confirm Christmas and Easter are a nightmare. Incidence of family harm and break ups are very high and very depressing. It still impacts my feelings about Christmas and I struggle to enjoy it.





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  #3212554 31-Mar-2024 18:05
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Rikkitic:

 

Okay, how about this?

 

 

I suggest the problem there is family violence, not public holidays.


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  #3212555 31-Mar-2024 18:09
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roobarb:

 

I suggest the problem there is family violence, not public holidays.

 

 

The incidence over Christmas and Easter are significantly higher. Christmas is the worse period.





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  #3212556 31-Mar-2024 18:11
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I suggest the problem there is family violence, not public holidays.

 

Family violence ON public holidays. It goes up then, goes down again after. No holiday, less violence.

 

 





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  #3212558 31-Mar-2024 18:17
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Rikkitic:

 

Family violence ON public holidays. It goes up then, goes down again after. No holiday, less violence.

 

 

Likewise road fatalities peak on public holidays but the campaign we have is for road safety, not cancellation of public holidays.


 
 
 

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  #3212560 31-Mar-2024 18:21
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roobarb:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Family violence ON public holidays. It goes up then, goes down again after. No holiday, less violence.

 

 

Likewise road fatalities peak on public holidays but the campaign we have is for road safety, not cancellation of public holidays.

 

 

Please don't trivialise a very tragic problem in our society. 





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  #3212574 31-Mar-2024 18:32
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Please don't trivialise a very tragic problem in our society. 

 

 

Far from it, I am suggesting that addressing society's acceptance of family violence would be a better approach than cancelling public holidays.


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  #3212575 31-Mar-2024 18:36
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I'm not advocating cancelling anything. Just allowing freedom of choice so people who don't like their families don't have to be stuck at home with them.

 

 





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  #3212577 31-Mar-2024 18:40
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One thing that hasn't come up in this thread yet is the review that  Brooke van Velden is running which includes the Holidays Act - https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/511508/elusive-fixes-for-holidays-act-in-brooke-van-velden-s-sights

 

I think it would be safe to assume if Act's thinking comes into play then all trading restrictions would be lifted.

 

Personally, I'd like to see the restriction on Easter Sunday be lifted given today is not a public holiday, but leave Good Friday, Anzac Day and Christmas Day as is. 


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