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MurrayM

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#1897463 8-Nov-2017 11:42

Batman: WHat does it mean if you bought a diamond ring but the diamond doesn't have a certificate? (was a long time ago, say 1999, shop has closed since, was a reputable shop, sourced diamond from Antwerp but didn't give me a cert)

You can get the diamond checked and they'll give you a diamond report. They have little machines that measure all the parts of the diamond with lasers to calculate the exact dimensions. Might be handy for insurance purposes if you don't have a report.

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#1897465 8-Nov-2017 11:43

networkn:

Batman: ok good. just in case there's the international police of black diamonds coming after me.

After 18 years? Somehow I doubt it. How would they find you? Does it have a tracking beacon?

Many diamonds these days have a microscopic number etched into them for tracking purposes.

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#1897470 8-Nov-2017 11:50

If you are jewellery shopping in for example Dubai - how do you know whether you are dealing with a trustworthy business and genuine merchandise? It's not like you can rely on the CGA (or do much at all) when you are back in NZ.

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#1897471 8-Nov-2017 11:53

Batman: WHat does it mean if you bought a diamond ring but the diamond doesn't have a certificate? (was a long time ago, say 1999, shop has closed since, was a reputable shop, sourced diamond from Antwerp but didn't give me a cert)

Go to 5 different valuers and you'll get 5 different valuations. You don't always get a certificate even when buying raw stones. About all you can do is get it appraised and hope you got a fair deal.

Values change over time as different cuts, materials and designs go in and out of style.

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#1897474 8-Nov-2017 11:56

MikeAqua:

If you are jewellery shopping in for example Dubai - how do you know whether you are dealing with a trustworthy business and genuine merchandise? It's not like you can rely on the CGA (or do much at all) when you are back in NZ.

Dubai, like NZ, makes a point of avoiding conflict diamonds, so prices in theory should be comparable for a like-for-like stone at the wholesale level. At the retail level, you can easily be paying >1000% markup.

You'd have to get a certification which is authorised by a known governing body most likely, whoever that might happen to be in the UAE.

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#1897714 8-Nov-2017 18:29

Perhaps a females perspective?

If you want to buy it as a gift to the loved one, and the loved one likes it, and you have the money, well fine.

But because they have a perceived value?
No.

The price is artificially inflated, they are not rare, they just release a certain number each year.

Personally I would not want my partner to buy a diamond anything, except perhaps drill bit.

They're boring. OK they refract colours, but so does a crystal.

I'd prefer something a bit more interesting.

And go into a pawn shop and buy one, you'd get it far cheaper, the used value is far, far less.

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#1898105 9-Nov-2017 10:08

pctek:

And go into a pawn shop and buy one, you'd get it far cheaper, the used value is far, far less.

Can one trust a pawn shop? Most seem rather dodgy. What protection do you have.

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#1898469 9-Nov-2017 18:47

Hatton Garden in London if you're going that way. Buy loose stones and have a jeweller mount them.

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#1898475 9-Nov-2017 19:02

I used Brian Gavin Diamonds to buy the diamond and platinum band. Used a diamond advisor online who picked up the specific diamond from Brian Gavin's portfolio. Was seamless process and shipping came via Fed Ex.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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