tdgeek:

mjb:

tdgeek: If the lights are red and will stay red, I will go up the inside to the head of the queue. Allows me to get away sooner, frees up one space in the lane, I keep away from the cars. Simple manners

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Oh ok, i thought it meant he was putting me in the bad bin! As regards my last sentence.

Conversely, I do put you in the bad bin.... I've never seen your reasoning before, and it makes sense to me now, but in the past nothing makes my blood boil more than the motorcyclists that sneak up the queue, effectively jumping it.

To me, a queue is a queue. I was there first, why should you jump in front of me and potentially stop me being able to cross an intersection/make a turn? Sure, it's rare, but that's my point of view as a car driver. Granted, I do see your point of view now, and it does lessen my angst ;)

Disclaimer: also a cyclist, and the bad cyclists (dangerous, riding without helmets, not looking, blocking traffic, etc) drive me mad too.

I will clarify.

This is filtering which is legal. It does not affect any cars ahead of me as I'm not jumping in the queue. Say you are ahead of me. I move up the inside of the cars, and stay left once I am at the front, about a meter ahead. Light goes green, I am gone. No car has been blocked or lost a place, they progress normally. The cars behind me do gain a place, I have effectively reduced the queue.