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  #1242279 19-Feb-2015 13:06
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But will that / had that exterminated the roaches?



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  #1242281 19-Feb-2015 13:08
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I want to be clear I consider Boko Haram to be evil as well. The atrocities committed at that school was one of the most terrible things I've ever witnessed. I did start a thread to that affect at the time. 

Obviously there are terrible things happening all over the world, I don't have all the answers, but what I am completely certain of, is ISIS can not be allowed to continue with their current evil plans.

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  #1242282 19-Feb-2015 13:14
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DarthKermit: ISIS are cockroaches. All that remains is to apply the bug spray.


Have used bug spray recently? Totally useless.

...So a perfect analogy for military action, then, I guess. Well said!




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  #1242285 19-Feb-2015 13:20
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networkn: I want to be clear I consider Boko Haram to be evil as well. The atrocities committed at that school was one of the most terrible things I've ever witnessed. I did start a thread to that affect at the time. 

Obviously there are terrible things happening all over the world, I don't have all the answers, but what I am completely certain of, is ISIS can not be allowed to continue with their current evil plans.


Agree. The entire world needs to unite against ISIS and Boko Haram. But the sad thisng is , is that there will be civilan casualties. But there will be anyway, won't there? Some form of united affort, Earth vs these terrorists. Difficult though as its not a case of fighting who you can see, but no dojbt the CIA, SIS's of this world globally will be locating data on them. As I type this a CNN alert.  Them  

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  #1242287 19-Feb-2015 13:22
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SaltyNZ:
DarthKermit: ISIS are cockroaches. All that remains is to apply the bug spray.


Have used bug spray recently? Totally useless.

...So a perfect analogy for military action, then, I guess. Well said!


What an odd thing to say. Do you have some comparison between what happened when we intervened vs not? Of course not because we intervene, it's not possible to know what would have happened had they have remained unchecked, but it seems to be unlikely things would be BETTER than now. 

It may not be a perfect solution but to my mind better than nothing.


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  #1242297 19-Feb-2015 13:34
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If that long article linked to at the start of this thread is indeed correct, then fighting back against ISIS is the only way. They are not interested in peace with their neighbours, they don't even recognise international boarders. Their way is the only way. It even states they are expected to war against their neighbours at least once a year, or else they're not true muslims!




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  #1242298 19-Feb-2015 13:36
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I was alarmed they want to take the war to Rome. With so many historical places and objects in Rome the damage they could do to historical sites is frightening.


 
 
 

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  #1242300 19-Feb-2015 13:39
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networkn: I was alarmed they want to take the war to Rome. With so many historical places and objects in Rome the damage they could do to historical sites is frightening.



They want to take the conflict Global, their aim is to kill all who do not believe in what they believe and their version of Islam. They cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be negotiated with.

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  #1242302 19-Feb-2015 13:41
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networkn: I was alarmed they want to take the war to Rome. With so many historical places and objects in Rome the damage they could do to historical sites is frightening.



They want to take the conflict Global, their aim is to kill all who do not believe in what they believe and their version of Islam. They cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be negotiated with.


Yah I understand that, however having just been to Italy for the first time and seen some of the wonders of historical significance, their loss would be hard to put a value on.

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  #1242305 19-Feb-2015 13:44
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networkn: Do you have some comparison between what happened when we intervened vs not? 



Well, other than basically all of the western meddling in 20th Century history, no, not really. My bad.




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  #1242306 19-Feb-2015 13:45
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networkn: 
Yah I understand that, however having just been to Italy for the first time and seen some of the wonders of historical significance, their loss would be hard to put a value on.


Agreed; however there are many historical sites throughout Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc that are also at risk. Of greater importance though is the loss of life which will escalate the longer the world procrastinates.

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  #1242317 19-Feb-2015 13:48
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SaltyNZ:
networkn: Do you have some comparison between what happened when we intervened vs not? 



Well, other than basically all of the western meddling in 20th Century history, no, not really. My bad.


These guys are not fighting 20Th century issues they are fighting issues from approximately thousand years ago. 

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  #1242323 19-Feb-2015 13:52
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networkn: 
Yah I understand that, however having just been to Italy for the first time and seen some of the wonders of historical significance, their loss would be hard to put a value on.


Agreed; however there are many historical sites throughout Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc that are also at risk. Of greater importance though is the loss of life which will escalate the longer the world procrastinates.


Yah I wasn't trying to minimise the other locations or the loss of Human life.

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KiwiNZ:
networkn: 
Yah I understand that, however having just been to Italy for the first time and seen some of the wonders of historical significance, their loss would be hard to put a value on.


Agreed; however there are many historical sites throughout Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc that are also at risk. Of greater importance though is the loss of life which will escalate the longer the world procrastinates.


Yah I wasn't trying to minimise the other locations or the loss of Human life.


I know you weren't

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  #1242340 19-Feb-2015 14:30
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The situation in Iraq is civil war. Isis is there because in addition to indigenous elements present in Isis, Isis is useful to parties in that conflict. This is something Rambo finds very confusing.



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