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  #2552430 30-Aug-2020 14:55
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Technofreak:

Cabbage trees. IMO they're a horrible plant and there's not place for them in a garden.


They drop leaves that cannot be chopped up be the lawn mower, aren't particularly attractive to look at. As a plant they're almost indestructible.



I think tī kōuka looks awesome. As for the leaves that drop we just put them in the green waste bin.




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  #2552435 30-Aug-2020 15:24
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MikeB4: I think tī kōuka looks awesome. As for the leaves that drop we just put them in the green waste bin.


I'm surprised that your green waste collector hasn't excluded cabbage tree leaves as they tend to get caught in the shredder just like flax.

I tie the leaves in small bundles and use them in place of kindling to get the woodburner going.

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  #2552438 30-Aug-2020 15:27
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Good tip regarding kindling I shall try that




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  #2552564 30-Aug-2020 18:47
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According to a friend / kaumatua, they're useful to predict the coming winter weather.  I spotted said friend on a mission to buy snow-straps for his guttering, in January, something to do with when the trees flowered. It didn't snow that winter, but never mind my BIL is a meteorologist/physicist, and he gets long-term predictions wrong occasionally too. 


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  #2552567 30-Aug-2020 18:53
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According to a friend / kaumatua, they're useful to predict the coming winter weather.

 

 

You can do that with most trees though, you don't just need cabbage trees. If the leaves are wet, it's raining. If they're rustling, it's windy. If the leaves cast a shadow, it's sunny. etc.

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  #2552569 30-Aug-2020 19:05
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According to a friend / kaumatua, they're useful to predict the coming winter weather.

 

You can do that with most trees though, you don't just need cabbage trees. If the leaves are wet, it's raining. If they're rustling, it's windy. If the leaves cast a shadow, it's sunny. etc.

 

That's sheer genius. I've got a couple of trees growing indoors - could I use those instead of checking the outdoor trees? 


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  #2552570 30-Aug-2020 19:12
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You can do that with most trees though, you don't just need cabbage trees. If the leaves are wet, it's raining. If they're rustling, it's windy. If the leaves cast a shadow, it's sunny. etc.

 

That's sheer genius. I've got a couple of trees growing indoors - could I use those instead of checking the outdoor trees? 

 

 

For indoors vs.outdoors it gets a bit complex, indoor trees will only do indoor weather so you'd need to move at least one of them outdoors to provide sensing capabilities there, and then use a webcam to read the indicators. Not sure if it's worth the effort, but by all means use the indoors ones to check for rain inside the house.

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  #2552907 31-Aug-2020 10:44
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neb:
 

 

That's sheer genius. I've got a couple of trees growing indoors - could I use those instead of checking the outdoor trees? 

 

For indoors vs.outdoors it gets a bit complex, indoor trees will only do indoor weather so you'd need to move at least one of them outdoors to provide sensing capabilities there, and then use a webcam to read the indicators. Not sure if it's worth the effort, but by all means use the indoors ones to check for rain inside the house.

 

I'd be careful though - the indication of rain on the indoor trees can mean a number of different things. 

 

Sometimes, it's raining. Sometimes it's merely drizzling. In either case, I'd be more concerned with the indoor precipitation...





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  #2553047 31-Aug-2020 11:51
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Technofreak:

 

Cabbage trees. IMO they're a horrible plant and there's not place for them in a garden.

 

They drop leaves that cannot be chopped up be the lawn mower, aren't particularly attractive to look at. As a plant they're almost indestructible.

 

 

Agreed wholeheartedly. I've just moved away from a rented property that had some of those trees along one edge of the back yard. I found out the hard way that the lawnmower won't simply slice through a basic-looking piece of vegetation and instead the leaves get wrapped around the spindle for the blade 😡 😡 😡 

 

It meant I had to rake the lawn before mowing, which turned a quick mow for a very small lawn into a lot more effort. If it was my property, those trees would've gone straight into a chipper.


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  #2553100 31-Aug-2020 12:43
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When I was not even ten, my father said to me
Come here and take a lesson from the awful cabbage tree
Don't put your faith in mowers, boy, my father said to me
Nothing on this earth can cut the mighty cabbage tree

 

Cabbage tree, very ugly and the cabbage leaf is tough
and whoever tries to mow one will have it very rough
cabbage tree you are so horrible, why won't you simply die
You rotten stinking stupid tree you make me want to cry

 

One day beneath the cabbage tree, my mower said to me
I will mow for you forever for as far as you can see
Nothing that I mow away will stand when I have passed
Know that where I go to mow no other thing can last

 

Full of joy I took my toy to mow the ground beneath
But then my mower choked upon a tangled cabbage leaf
My mower spat and belched out smoke and then it said to me
Oh why my love, who did you make me mow that cabbage tree?

 

Cabbage tree, very ugly and the cabbage leaf is tough
and whoever tries to mow one will have it very rough
cabbage tree you are so horrible, why won't you simply die
You rotten stinking stupid tree you make me want to cry

 

 





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  #2553115 31-Aug-2020 13:07
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I quite like a cabbage tree ... unfortunately they get ugly real quick in suburbia especially when half eaten by caterpillars.




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  #2553119 31-Aug-2020 13:14
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tī kōuka is very good if you have a bank that needs stabilising as their root system if very strong. The wood is good for building a smoke house as it is fire retardant. Something early European settlers learnt and built chimney stacks our of  tī kōuka timber.





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  #2555321 2-Sep-2020 07:25
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The general dumbing-down of life. Just heard a PSA-type ad on the radio about road works in our our region. That’s fair enough but it concluded with a ‘sincere voice’ saying “Look out for the roadworks signs and stop at the temporary traffic lights”. FFS.





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  #2555323 2-Sep-2020 07:34
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The general dumbing-down of life. Just heard a PSA-type ad on the radio about road works in our our region. That’s fair enough but it concluded with a ‘sincere voice’ saying “Look out for the roadworks signs and stop at the temporary traffic lights”. FFS.



Yet I constantly see drivers speeding through road work area, a good example is SH1 where Transmission Gully work is being done. Every time I travel along there multiple drivers ignore the speed restrictions. This put other motorist and the road workers at risk. I have also experienced drivers ignoring temporary traffic lights. The only dumbing down of live is by the idiot drivers that ignore the rules at road work sites and the reminder seem quite appropriate.




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  #2555374 2-Sep-2020 07:55
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MikeB4:
eracode:

 

The general dumbing-down of life. Just heard a PSA-type ad on the radio about road works in our our region. That’s fair enough but it concluded with a ‘sincere voice’ saying “Look out for the roadworks signs and stop at the temporary traffic lights”. FFS.

 



Yet I constantly see drivers speeding through road work area, a good example is SH1 where Transmission Gully work is being done. Every time I travel along there multiple drivers ignore the speed restrictions. This put other motorist and the road workers at risk. I have also experienced drivers ignoring temporary traffic lights. The only dumbing down of live is by the idiot drivers that ignore the rules at road work sites and the reminder seem quite appropriate.

 

You’re right but those idiots will be idiot drivers regardless of whether there’s a stupid ad on the radio about obeying traffic lights. Do we need public money being spent on radio ads saying patently dumb things?

 

If the ad had said “The works are well signposted and there are temporary traffic lights in operation” I may not have minded so much.





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