R Plates ...ARE YOU KIDDING ME !?!?!

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miamiheatfan

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#103149 31-May-2012 11:45

Wow seriously , what is this BS the government is thinking of implementing ?

Why don't they also implement an 'F' plate for full licenses so every car on the road in NZ will have a stupid yellow plate sticking on their rear window .....

seriously.
We're not Australia, stop copying.

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#633268 31-May-2012 11:50

+1 to the R plate. Should get restricted drivers off onto their full faster, instead of dicking round for 9-10 odd years, or 17 years as one of the guys at work has been on it

Agree that we aren't Australia though, we don't have the wealth, or economic power of Australia, nor will we ever

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#633278 31-May-2012 12:00

vinnieg: +1 to the R plate. Should get restricted drivers off onto their full faster, instead of dicking round for 9-10 odd years, or 17 years as one of the guys at work has been on it

Agree that we aren't Australia though, we don't have the wealth, or economic power of Australia, nor will we ever

I actually planned on doing what your co-worker is doing.
I see no point if i dont need to drive between 10-5 and i don't have non-full licensed passenger.
Look at him though (your co-worker) , has he been in lots of DUI etc etc ? I think he's doing just fine, 17 years on his r-license.

Getting a full license will NOT make you a better driver. Let's not lose reality here. The stuff they test you on the full-license test are basically what people have been doing anyways with their R-licenses ....motorways , parallel park etc etc.

And who's to say they won't drive like **** after they get their full ?

The govt just wants $$ millions more in income from the f-license test. Really.

If my driving needs change and i will have younger passengers and non-full-licensed ones and/OR i need to drive 10-5 am ...then i'll get my full. BUt till then i'll save that $118 ..

But the stupid govt has something to say about that. grr.

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#633280 31-May-2012 12:01

I can beat that. Had my learners for a full 20 years before I bothered getting my restricted.

Of course, I had my full motorbike license that whole time and only just bothered buying a car recently and sorting out my license.

Given that people are only really supposed to be on their restricted for a year tops and most people probably sort it out by the time they're 18, I don't see it as a big deal.

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#633292 31-May-2012 12:07

Having one learner driver and one restricted driver in the house, both in late teen age range, it might make it a little easier on them: people seem to be a little more understanding of a driver taking off more slowly, not driving as confidently when they have L plates on, and our R driver is missing this.... so it would give them a "grace period" from other drivers possibly, instead of the hostility, rage, gesturing, hooting and shouting when the young driver is hesitant when first driving on their own, fully in charge of a leathal weapon... i mean car :)

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#633299 31-May-2012 12:13

I deliberately left my L plate on the car even after I'd moved on in the hope that it'd stop people tailgating me.

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#633303 31-May-2012 12:23

miamiheatfan:
vinnieg: +1 to the R plate. Should get restricted drivers off onto their full faster, instead of dicking round for 9-10 odd years, or 17 years as one of the guys at work has been on it

Agree that we aren't Australia though, we don't have the wealth, or economic power of Australia, nor will we ever

I actually planned on doing what your co-worker is doing.
I see no point if i dont need to drive between 10-5 and i don't have non-full licensed passenger.
Look at him though (your co-worker) , has he been in lots of DUI etc etc ? I think he's doing just fine, 17 years on his r-license.

Getting a full license will NOT make you a better driver. Let's not lose reality here. The stuff they test you on the full-license test are basically what people have been doing anyways with their R-licenses ....motorways , parallel park etc etc.

And who's to say they won't drive like **** after they get their full ?

The govt just wants $$ millions more in income from the f-license test. Really.

If my driving needs change and i will have younger passengers and non-full-licensed ones and/OR i need to drive 10-5 am ...then i'll get my full. BUt till then i'll save that $118 ..

But the stupid govt has something to say about that. grr.

You have to be kidding me. Not sure now the full test has changed recently but it certainly doesn't just test you on parrell parking and motorways. It tests you on identifying hazards something a lot of restricted drivers don't do well.

The restricted period is intended for young people to become more confident at driving without the peer pressure of their friends in the back seat asking them to see how fast they can go, because we have such a young starting age I think it is completely necessary.

IMHO it is views like yours of sitting on your restricted for years that is one of the reasons we have such crap drivers in this country.

+1 to R plates

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#633309 31-May-2012 12:30

R plates are a great idea. Most kiwi drivers are pretty bad, for an example speeding. Nobody appears to understand speed limit signs among many other things.

Just a note to those that tailgate people doing the speed limit, 1) you look like a knob 2) I'm not going to increase my speed 3) If I have to throw my breaks on because of a hazard...

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#633312 31-May-2012 12:42

Btw, anyone know what H plates are? See these on trucks, so thinking maybe provisional HT license?

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#633314 31-May-2012 12:48

stevenz: I deliberately left my L plate on the car even after I'd moved on in the hope that it'd stop people tailgating me.

Can't you get fined for that? Plus it completely negates the benefits of an L/R plate system. I do notice that a lot of people can't seem to be bothered taking their L plates off when the learner isn't driving the car.

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#633317 31-May-2012 12:51

stevenz: I deliberately left my L plate on the car even after I'd moved on in the hope that it'd stop people tailgating me.

Did it work?
I must confess to being a tailgater of people who drive significantly under the speed limit.

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#633319 31-May-2012 12:54

bazzer:
stevenz: I deliberately left my L plate on the car even after I'd moved on in the hope that it'd stop people tailgating me.

Can't you get fined for that? Plus it completely negates the benefits of an L/R plate system. I do notice that a lot of people can't seem to be bothered taking their L plates off when the learner isn't driving the car.

Don't know if there's any penalty, apart from being pulle dover by police occasionally for be alone in a car with L plates on. The inconvenience of having to sit on the side of the road & show the cop your full licence, while his lights flash away is probably punishment enough.

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#633320 31-May-2012 12:55

floydbloke:
stevenz: I deliberately left my L plate on the car even after I'd moved on in the hope that it'd stop people tailgating me.

Did it work?
I must confess to being a tailgater of people who drive significantly under the speed limit.

I've always thought it must be a bugger being a cop - they give you a big V8 Holden, and every single car in front of you is driving at 45kph.

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#633326 31-May-2012 13:02

R Plates? Great idea. I don't care that some people sit on their restricted licenses for years and are probably quite competent... Anything that signals to me that a driver is likely less experienced is a good thing in my book.

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#633328 31-May-2012 13:03

jbard:
miamiheatfan:
vinnieg: +1 to the R plate. Should get restricted drivers off onto their full faster, instead of dicking round for 9-10 odd years, or 17 years as one of the guys at work has been on it

Agree that we aren't Australia though, we don't have the wealth, or economic power of Australia, nor will we ever

I actually planned on doing what your co-worker is doing.
I see no point if i dont need to drive between 10-5 and i don't have non-full licensed passenger.
Look at him though (your co-worker) , has he been in lots of DUI etc etc ? I think he's doing just fine, 17 years on his r-license.

Getting a full license will NOT make you a better driver. Let's not lose reality here. The stuff they test you on the full-license test are basically what people have been doing anyways with their R-licenses ....motorways , parallel park etc etc.

And who's to say they won't drive like **** after they get their full ?

The govt just wants $$ millions more in income from the f-license test. Really.

If my driving needs change and i will have younger passengers and non-full-licensed ones and/OR i need to drive 10-5 am ...then i'll get my full. BUt till then i'll save that $118 ..

But the stupid govt has something to say about that. grr.

You have to be kidding me. Not sure now the full test has changed recently but it certainly doesn't just test you on parrell parking and motorways. It tests you on identifying hazards something a lot of restricted drivers don't do well.

The restricted period is intended for young people to become more confident at driving without the peer pressure of their friends in the back seat asking them to see how fast they can go, because we have such a young starting age I think it is completely necessary.

IMHO it is views like yours of sitting on your restricted for years that is one of the reasons we have such crap drivers in this country.

+1 to R plates

No sir, it's views like yours who probably belongs to most drivers in NZ who are tailgaters at people doing the speed limit or even slightly above the limit. It's views like yours who probably belongs to people who decides to turn right when there's a straight car coming at you within 10 feet.

Impatient drivers.

Having your full doesn't mean **** . Lots of jackass drivers out there with their full licenses.

I was doing 55 in my corolla on a straight road last week , and this guy in his 40s in his HOLDEN COMODDORE, was right up my *** ...want me to do 65 in a 50 zone ? yea right

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#633339 31-May-2012 13:11

Kiwi drivers are bloody awful. Anything that adds an extra layer of accountability or enables a driver's license level to be identified at a glance is a good thing IMO

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