Drinking on Interislander: is it time to call time?

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#166232 6-Mar-2015 17:59

As I write this, I am sat in the Kaitaki Plus lounge, observing the drinking habits of those around me. I know a number of the people drinking are driving because I saw them in the queues waiting to board.

One couple, for example, has consumed 4 glasses of wine and 4 beers so far. It's free in the lounge too.

Now, I know you could argue that it's like a pub. Except it isn't. Here, no one is getting a taxi home if they drove a vehicle onto the ship.

Seems to me time drivers were not served alcohol on board. There's not even a mention of drink driving etc.

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#1252406 6-Mar-2015 18:03

If people are dumb enough to drink and drive they should be caught and lose their license.

This is not a reason to stop serving alcohol to everyone.

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#1252421 6-Mar-2015 18:06

I suggested not serving drivers, not not serving everyone.

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#1252422 6-Mar-2015 18:07

Not sure why but this topic had ended up duplicated. Can anyone fix that?

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#1252428 6-Mar-2015 18:29

Have you got anything else to do rather than watching people drinking wine and beer?

Are you travelling alone? Is that why you're lonely?

Huh. I went to the bar last night. Every one there us drinking beer and vodka. Guess what some of them may be driving home....

Should we stop serving alcohol at the bar?

Seriously, how many times have people drove off the shop before?

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#1252432 6-Mar-2015 18:32

I see where the OP is coming from. There's the Host Responsibility too. And there should be a police check point at the exit on the other side - if you are drunk you can't drive. End of story.

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#1252442 6-Mar-2015 18:40

I generally see the worst group of drunk drivers as older male businessmen types, rather than the youth that most the advertising is targetting.

IMO, set up a checkpoint at the ferry exit and be on the lookout for people pulling over and swapping with the missus on the lead up to it.

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#1252463 6-Mar-2015 18:59

Geektastic: I suggested not serving drivers, not not serving everyone.

How do you identify who is a driver and who isn't? Is every person who arrives in a car deemed to be a driver, and if not, how do you stop someone who says they are not the driver drinking, then driving?

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#1252467 6-Mar-2015 19:04

ajobbins:
Geektastic: I suggested not serving drivers, not not serving everyone.

How do you identify who is a driver and who isn't? Is every person who arrives in a car deemed to be a driver, and if not, how do you stop someone who says they are not the driver drinking, then driving?

It's about making the effort. If people want to be stupid you can't stop them. But if you sell alcohol to drivers - and that is for sure on a boat like this - you have a duty of responsibility to at least try and ensure they don't leave your boat drunk.

To not even have reminders at a bar that serves free booze seems very irresponsible.

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#1252468 6-Mar-2015 19:11

I agree with you that it would be a good idea to have some reminder signage, and the consumption that you observed was reckless. However, it is a three hour journey and I personally enjoy having a beer or two at the start of the journey. There comes a point where you have to trust adults to behave like adults, even when you know a small minority of them won't.

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#1252532 6-Mar-2015 22:06

freitasm: I see where the OP is coming from. There's the Host Responsibility too. And there should be a police check point at the exit on the other side - if you are drunk you can't drive. End of story.

Breath testing every driver leaving the boat from time to time would certainly be a good idea.

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#1252534 6-Mar-2015 22:23

richms: I generally see the worst group of drunk drivers as older male businessmen types, rather than the youth that most the advertising is targetting.

IMO, set up a checkpoint at the ferry exit and be on the lookout for people pulling over and swapping with the missus on the lead up to it.

A responsible missus wouldn't let their old boy drink and drive....
Responsibility cuts all ways, and putting it on the Host isnt the solution.

Random stopping and signage in the bars might help, but is there a problem here or simply someones perception of one?

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#1252553 7-Mar-2015 00:22

I would be curious as to whether the police have ever breath tested the cars coming off the ferry ?

If not I think a random testing session would be interesting.

Would answer the question of whether it a problem or someones perception of one ?

As the option of getting a taxi home doesn't apply to the ferry and there's a free bar, I think the OP has a point and the host responsibility standard should be higher than the standard pub.

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#1252556 7-Mar-2015 00:26

I really don't understand why everyone is so sensitive about this. Surely trying to prevent drink driving is a good thing?
If I know I have to drive, I won't drink a single drop of alcohol. It's not worth the risk and there's literally no point.

Most people don't have a problem with their drinking, but obviously there are quite a few that do and they need to know it's not acceptable to drive after drinking. However they do that, I don't know, but it's everyones responsibility. Look out for drunk people walking to a car if you're a passenger. Stop the car from leaving if you're a staff member or call the police. I'm not sure if breath testing all drivers as they leave is practical, but it certainly can't do any harm.

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#1252567 7-Mar-2015 08:29

oxnsox:
richms: I generally see the worst group of drunk drivers as older male businessmen types, rather than the youth that most the advertising is targetting.

IMO, set up a checkpoint at the ferry exit and be on the lookout for people pulling over and swapping with the missus on the lead up to it.

A responsible missus wouldn't let their old boy drink and drive....
Responsibility cuts all ways, and putting it on the Host isnt the solution.

Random stopping and signage in the bars might help, but is there a problem here or simply someones perception of one?

I may be wrong, but I believe the licensing laws place responsibility on the host?

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#1252570 7-Mar-2015 08:42

This is what really annoys me about the tourist driving debate! I Live in a South Island tourist town so Ive seen the worst of it, and yet I still see and hear of many more locals drink driving.

And there are idiots that say things like it none of your business how I get home from a pub and other equally small minded and selfish things.

The simple fact foreign drivers were involved in about 6 per cent of all fatal or injury crashes in New Zealand, and were at fault in about 2 per cent.
Alcohol or drugs is a contribution factor in 30% of all fatal or injury crashes in New Zealand.

Which one should we really be targeting.

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