How do Tosh Computers manage to avoid GST being charged?

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#177375 31-Jul-2015 11:39

I can see that they ship from Hawaii and therefore no GST is charged.

Surely GST will be added to a $2000 laptop when it arrives in NZ though?

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#1355882 31-Jul-2015 11:44

not if you declare it a $200 chromebook.

on another thread they have no clue how to remove GPU from mobo ... so a rectangle plastic box for $200 sounds reasonable

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#1355884 31-Jul-2015 11:44

Your post is lacking some context. Being based in Hawaii I assume it is a US company, and therefore GST is irrelivant to them; them shipping internationally, therefore logically state tax not added to the purchase.

You buy enough from overseas that you do already know it will hit customs and they will charge duty and GST.

So what are we missing that you've not mentioned?

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#1355895 31-Jul-2015 11:46

Yeah, not sure what you are talking about?
Tosh = Toshiba?
Buy online from them? They ship to you ex Hawaii? Sounds OK (Dell ship from Singapore). If they have a NZ webpage, and are a NZ company, they will be charging you the GST when you buy it surely?

Or is Tosh something else completely?

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#1355896 31-Jul-2015 11:46

ah i see now. yes when customs reads the invoice they will know what to do.

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#1355898 31-Jul-2015 11:48

You would think so.

Maybe they're selling $1700 computers as $2000 computers and paying the GST themselves?

Maybe someone who makes frequent trips to their holiday home in Hawaii is bringing them in as 'personal baggage'?

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#1355919 31-Jul-2015 12:04

trig42: Yeah, not sure what you are talking about?

http://www.toshsales.com/index.php

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#1355924 31-Jul-2015 12:08

they are being very disingenuous ->

"No GST payable for NZ & Australia clients when we ship from our store in Hawaii. (Laptops, Mac Pro)"

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#1355935 31-Jul-2015 12:12

keewee01: Your post is lacking some context. Being based in Hawaii I assume it is a US company, and therefore GST is irrelivant to them; them shipping internationally, therefore logically state tax not added to the purchase.

You buy enough from overseas that you do already know it will hit customs and they will charge duty and GST.

So what are we missing that you've not mentioned?

That their advertising on their site suggests they will be delivering GST free.

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#1355936 31-Jul-2015 12:12

nathan: they are being very disingenuous ->

"No GST payable for NZ & Australia clients when we ship from our store in Hawaii. (Laptops, Mac Pro)"

Yes - that!

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#1355961 31-Jul-2015 12:37

Maybe they aren't registered for GST due to not earning enough? I believe there is a threshold. But customs should still be charging GST and duties if applicable, when it comes into NZ I would have thought,

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#1355965 31-Jul-2015 12:39

For some products they claim to be acting as agents for an overseas firm. Then it's their impression that most product never gets caught by Customs.

Quote from 3 years ago

" Incoming product should be held by NZ Customs for GST assessment, but that never happens, so it is the 'taxman' that creates this opportunity for NZ customers, not us"

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#1355969 31-Jul-2015 12:42

Geektastic:
nathan: they are being very disingenuous ->

"No GST payable for NZ & Australia clients when we ship from our store in Hawaii. (Laptops, Mac Pro)"

Yes - that!

Customs are also really toughing up on wrong price declarations, and there's a penalty for it.

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#1355980 31-Jul-2015 12:56

Dreal:
Geektastic:
nathan: they are being very disingenuous ->

"No GST payable for NZ & Australia clients when we ship from our store in Hawaii. (Laptops, Mac Pro)"

Yes - that!

Customs are also really toughing up on wrong price declarations, and there's a penalty for it.

and so they should, there is a responsibility on everyone to pay tax

Tosh Computers in Tauranga telling people there prices are ~15% cheaper than buying locally because they are Tax Free and No GST payable to NZ clients is not on at all

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#1355982 31-Jul-2015 12:56

Bung: For some products they claim to be acting as agents for an overseas firm. Then it's their impression that most product never gets caught by Customs.

Quote from 3 years ago

" Incoming product should be held by NZ Customs for GST assessment, but that never happens, so it is the 'taxman' that creates this opportunity for NZ customers, not us"

If that is the case, then why is that happening. The Taxpayer is missing out on tax to pay for schools and health etc, so we all have to pay more in tax though GST rises etc, to pay for the shortfall. I am all for paying my fair share of taxes and if everyone did, we wouldn't have the need for so many charities.

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#1356096 31-Jul-2015 14:53

mattwnz:
Bung: For some products they claim to be acting as agents for an overseas firm. Then it's their impression that most product never gets caught by Customs.

Quote from 3 years ago

" Incoming product should be held by NZ Customs for GST assessment, but that never happens, so it is the 'taxman' that creates this opportunity for NZ customers, not us"

If that is the case, then why is that happening. The Taxpayer is missing out on tax to pay for schools and health etc, so we all have to pay more in tax though GST rises etc, to pay for the shortfall. I am all for paying my fair share of taxes and if everyone did, we wouldn't have the need for so many charities.

Part of the problem is that tax is not really fair - most of it is paid by a very small minority. A bit OT.

I'm more curious how they manage it than morally outraged.

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