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# 183731 28-Oct-2015 09:29
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/73433082/christchurch-wendys-could-start-selling-alcohol-with-burgers   

I seriously hope this gets thrown out. There is nothing good that comes of something like this. It would certainly ensure I never eat in with my family. 

I don't think places like this should serve alcohol, it's just a catalyst for trouble.

Not sure how they are going to handle the host responsibility section effectively.

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It'll never happen. 

Wouldn't worry. 


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I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) served beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?




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kobiak: I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) server beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?


No they can't! We do not drink well in this country, we have ongoing problems with impulse control as it relates to alcohol and with intake moderation.

Europe have a fairly different drinking culture and whilst they are not immune to drinking to excess it's certainly not the problem it is in the South Pacific.

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networkn: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/73433082/christchurch-wendys-could-start-selling-alcohol-with-burgers   

I seriously hope this gets thrown out. There is nothing good that comes of something like this. It would certainly ensure I never eat in with my family. 

I don't think places like this should serve alcohol, it's just a catalyst for trouble.

Not sure how they are going to handle the host responsibility section effectively.


The problem here is our drinking culture, and its actually sad that we can't have more restaurants like this.

I like the idea of family restaurants where one can have a beer or two. Why is this so frowned upon in New Zealand? 

We really should focus our efforts on fixing our drinking culture instead of focusing efforts on banning/removal. 

I hope this get the go-ahead. 



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I often take my family to licensed restaurants and pubs and have never had any issues.



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DizzyD:
networkn: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/73433082/christchurch-wendys-could-start-selling-alcohol-with-burgers   

I seriously hope this gets thrown out. There is nothing good that comes of something like this. It would certainly ensure I never eat in with my family. 

I don't think places like this should serve alcohol, it's just a catalyst for trouble.

Not sure how they are going to handle the host responsibility section effectively.


The problem here is our drinking culture, and its actually sad that we can't have more restaurants like this.

I like the idea of family restaurants where one can have a beer or two. Why is this so frowned upon in New Zealand? 

We really should focus our efforts on fixing our drinking culture instead of focusing efforts on banning/removal. 

I hope this get the go-ahead. 




Ok I don't get it. You said you know we have a drinking culture problem, yet you want to make alcohol MORE accessible? 

There are LOTS of family friendly places you can have a beer in NZ, Doolan's being the one that jumps right off the top of my head.

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networkn:
kobiak: I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) server beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?


No they can't! We do not drink well in this country, we have ongoing problems with impulse control as it relates to alcohol and with intake moderation.

Europe have a fairly different drinking culture and whilst they are not immune to drinking to excess it's certainly not the problem it is in the South Pacific.


The problem is that is not illegal in NZ to drink alcohol (any age), only illegal to purchase. My 4 year old is legally allowed to drink beer and rum!! Thats nuts if you ask me. 

We need to criminalize underage drinking. Then set the legal drinking age to 20 or 21. People will quickly learn. 

 
 
 
 


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kobiak: I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) served beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?


The problem is current laws -- I don't think they would meet the threshold to obtain a liquor license. 

And, to your question....  most can, but a large minority cannot. 

Different cultures treat alcohol in different ways -- what works in one country may not work for another.  



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networkn: 

Ok I don't get it. You said you know we have a drinking culture problem, yet you want to make alcohol MORE accessible? 

There are LOTS of family friendly places you can have a beer in NZ, Doolan's being the one that jumps right off the top of my head.


Alcohol is already very accessible. 
Its even available in supermarkets. Which to me should be a NO NO. 






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DizzyD:
networkn: 

Ok I don't get it. You said you know we have a drinking culture problem, yet you want to make alcohol MORE accessible? 

There are LOTS of family friendly places you can have a beer in NZ, Doolan's being the one that jumps right off the top of my head.


Alcohol is already very accessible. 
Its even available in supermarkets. Which to me should be a NO NO. 





I agree heartily, which is why it should not be EVEN MORE Accessible. 

Nothing good comes of this, if it's approved.

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Have no issue with more on licenses.

NZ's booze problem is fueled by off license sales, not on license sales.








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networkn:
DizzyD:
networkn: 

Ok I don't get it. You said you know we have a drinking culture problem, yet you want to make alcohol MORE accessible? 

There are LOTS of family friendly places you can have a beer in NZ, Doolan's being the one that jumps right off the top of my head.


Alcohol is already very accessible. 
Its even available in supermarkets. Which to me should be a NO NO. 





I agree heartily, which is why it should not be EVEN MORE Accessible. 

Nothing good comes of this, if it's approved.


Lots of good. Beer with a meal. Thats good! I like Wendy's. Washing it down with a cold frosty in Summer sounds really good.

Lots of places do this already. Have a look at Breakers. We go there often with the family, beer is good but burgers are cr@p.

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Lias: Have no issue with more on licenses.

NZ's booze problem is fueled by off license sales, not on license sales.






I agree. Its the cheap stuff available from all supermarkets. 

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kobiak: I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) server beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?


No they can't! We do not drink well in this country, we have ongoing problems with impulse control as it relates to alcohol and with intake moderation.

Europe have a fairly different drinking culture and whilst they are not immune to drinking to excess it's certainly not the problem it is in the South Pacific.


Both France and Spain have a higher rate of episodic drinking and alcohol related mortality than New Zealand.







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HowickDota:
networkn:
kobiak: I'm not sure about now, but few years back, All McDs in Europe that I went (in Andorra, Spain, South France) server beer.

So what's the problem? Can't kiwis manage a pint with a burger? really?


No they can't! We do not drink well in this country, we have ongoing problems with impulse control as it relates to alcohol and with intake moderation.

Europe have a fairly different drinking culture and whilst they are not immune to drinking to excess it's certainly not the problem it is in the South Pacific.


Both France and Spain have a higher rate of episodic drinking and alcohol related mortality than New Zealand.


Proof please? I'll be surprised if that turns out to be true, but even if it is, does that mean we should follow suit?

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