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Topic # 185831 7-Dec-2015 12:51

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Not sure if it applies to other parts of NZ, but in Auckland there're always some poor souls standing on the side of the road, with a big video camera, filming the bus lane.

With projects like these, SURELY Auckland Transport can automate such jobs?
Or is that completely counter productive of what they're trying to achieve?

I mean, surely they already have such technology for toll roads, why not use that there?
Does anyone know what else they're filming apart from silly drivers driving on bus lane?


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  Reply # 1441981 7-Dec-2015 13:32
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AT are filming for people driving in bus lanes to send them fines.
Which needs the film for evidence




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  Reply # 1442068 7-Dec-2015 14:53
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Seems archaic to send people out with cameras when they could watch them from an office somewhere if they just stuck them on a pole.




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  Reply # 1442509 8-Dec-2015 09:41
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Pretty sure the reason the guy is there is to witness if there are actually enough people in the cars. The camera's can't pick up a lot of passengers (Especially kiddy seats etc) because they're at the wrong angle.

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  Reply # 1442586 8-Dec-2015 11:58
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So the guy could be there without the cameras then? I am sure its all just for show because people I know have driven in the onewa road lane when it was running and not got tickets.

Besides, wouldnt they have to have evidence that you had only 1 or 2 people in the car? Hard to prove that.




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  Reply # 1442679 8-Dec-2015 13:27
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richms: So the guy could be there without the cameras then? I am sure its all just for show because people I know have driven in the onewa road lane when it was running and not got tickets.

Besides, wouldnt they have to have evidence that you had only 1 or 2 people in the car? Hard to prove that.


Except they are warranted officers, so their word carries greater weight then you or I.
The video evidence is secondary, and shows how far down the lane you have driven (60 metres max?)



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  Reply # 1442683 8-Dec-2015 13:28
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richms: So the guy could be there without the cameras then? I am sure its all just for show because people I know have driven in the onewa road lane when it was running and not got tickets.

Besides, wouldnt they have to have evidence that you had only 1 or 2 people in the car? Hard to prove that.


Except they are warranted officers, so their word carries greater weight then you or I.
The video evidence is secondary, and shows how far down the lane you have driven (60 metres max?)



Unless they have some paparatzi grade flash to get into the tinted windows then I dont see what they are going to be able to see as far as kids in car seats etc in the back of a 4wd.

Perhaps that is why people have got away with it so much?




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  Reply # 1442793 8-Dec-2015 14:37
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JonnyCam:
richms: So the guy could be there without the cameras then? I am sure its all just for show because people I know have driven in the onewa road lane when it was running and not got tickets.

Besides, wouldnt they have to have evidence that you had only 1 or 2 people in the car? Hard to prove that.


Except they are warranted officers, so their word carries greater weight then you or I.
The video evidence is secondary, and shows how far down the lane you have driven (60 metres max?)




 

Pole mounted speed-cameras seem to operate without warranted officers. No doubt there's some regulatory issues complicating things though....

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  Reply # 1442799 8-Dec-2015 14:42
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wsnz:
Pole mounted speed-cameras seem to operate without warranted officers. No doubt there's some regulatory issues complicating things though....


There are machines to measure speed, none for vehicle occupancy that they would care to deploy or admit to having.. yet..




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  Reply # 1442803 8-Dec-2015 14:49
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wsnz:
Pole mounted speed-cameras seem to operate without warranted officers. No doubt there's some regulatory issues complicating things though....


There are machines to measure speed, none for vehicle occupancy that they would care to deploy or admit to having.. yet..


The pole-mounted cameras worked just fine in Canada for transit lanes.

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  Reply # 1442806 8-Dec-2015 14:51
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wsnz:
The pole-mounted cameras worked just fine in Canada for transit lanes.


How do they get a count of people in the vehicle when the back is tinted? If I was in a van or wagon with the back as black as possible I would dispute any fines till they provided evidence of empty back seats.




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  Reply # 1442811 8-Dec-2015 15:00
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richms:
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The pole-mounted cameras worked just fine in Canada for transit lanes.


How do they get a count of people in the vehicle when the back is tinted? If I was in a van or wagon with the back as black as possible I would dispute any fines till they provided evidence of empty back seats.

 

I know that TransLink (in Vancouver BC) monitored at least some cameras manually in their offices, but some other jurisdictions had been trialing infrared cameras that could not only tell how many occupants were in the car, but also whether they were using mannequins which unfortunately, was relatively common.

We just caught the Skytrain or the bus everywhere, which was much easier!

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