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Topic # 205734 24-Nov-2016 20:51
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Strange question I know, cause most people want signs to stop junk mail from being delivered!

 

We love junk mail, the kids like flicking through the mailers and dreaming about toys they could buy if they saved their money, and we like looking at the specials while eating breakfast.

 

However, over the past few months, our junk mail supply has dried up.  Right around the time, it appears, that a new person started delivering the junk mail in our area.

 

From what I have witnessed, the person who delivers the junk mail does so in an old mobility scooter.  I have watched him travel down the other side of the street and deliver junk mail into everyone's mailboxes, and then when it comes to our place and some others in the street he cruises past without a second glance.

 

To be fair, our mailbox is on top of the front retaining wall, about 1.3m above the pavement. 

 

However, we have no issues with normal mail, or with the local papers.

 

My thoughts with this are, if he genuinely needs a mobility scooter then how did he get a job delivering junk mail where there could be a chance of needing to reach higher mailboxes? Or is he simply being lazy to stop and put the items in the mailbox?

 

I wanted to confront him but have so far missed him (and now i am back at work i am no longer at home during the day).

 

I am also tempted to put a mailbox down lower, but feel that I shouldn't have to do this as there is no issues with normal mail delivery.

 

The big question is who do i contact about rectifying this issue? Everything i can find is regarding stopping junk mail delivery!


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  Reply # 1677000 24-Nov-2016 20:58
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Hmm. He doesnt deserve a job? He is not able bodied, good on him for doing something. 

 

Lazy?  He cannot reach

 

Confront him?

 

 

 

How about catching him, have a quick chat, what you can do to get the junk mail. 

 

Of course there are no issues with other deliveries, I would assume they are by able bodied people.

 

 

 

Sorry, but I do need to add a little tut tut


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  Reply # 1677001 24-Nov-2016 20:58
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Attach a big hanging flag to your mailbox saying junk mail please.




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  Reply # 1677035 24-Nov-2016 21:30
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Move your letterbox so it meets NZPost standards. Until you've done that you're lucky you're getting mail.





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  Reply # 1677050 24-Nov-2016 22:02
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How much do they get paid these days? It seems like a lot of older people now do deliveries, when it used to be young people. Maybe that is due to our ... health and safety laws?

 

 

 

It is quite easy to find out who the company is who is responsible for delivering.Just contact a company who produces this type of junk mail, and find out who makes their deliveries in your area.


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  Reply # 1677093 24-Nov-2016 22:42
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mattwnz: How much do they get paid these days? It seems like a lot of older people now do deliveries, when it used to be young people. Maybe that is due to our ... health and safety laws?


If it is like the run up our street the deliverers last until they start tossing bundles of paper down the bank into the bush rather than deliver it. Anti litter laws more like it.

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  Reply # 1677099 24-Nov-2016 23:16
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mattwnz:

 

How much do they get paid these days? It seems like a lot of older people now do deliveries, when it used to be young people. Maybe that is due to our ... health and safety laws?

 

 

 

 

 

iirc it's along the lines of $20-25 a week for 250 houses and ~8+ mailers. Imagine how much effort it is for the kid/parent to sort it before delivery. You get 8 bundles of 250 pamphlets and have to sort/bundle them together before delivery(or during which is slower), that might take 3-4 hours and then 2 trips of the circuit to do all those houses. So say 5 hours time for $20-25..

 

 

 

So yeah..no surprises people just dump them when they are often making under $5 an hour.


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  Reply # 1677101 24-Nov-2016 23:30
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I remember when I had a paper run in the 90's as a kid, I was paid $5 per round, which was about 200-300 papers, around 1 - 1.5 hours work and I didn't think that was much back then!


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  Reply # 1677142 25-Nov-2016 07:06
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Being a parent of a delivery kid I can tell you it's peanuts. But it teaches him a good work ethic so happy to support that. They are very struck on the 'no junk mail' labels but can't say I have ever heard the opposite problem. If it can be delivered to a house it will be, the sooner he can get rid of his quota the sooner the job is finished. Perhaps it's just an access issue ? Some peoples letterboxes leave a lot to be desired, just about impossible to post in the front of some.




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  Reply # 1677166 25-Nov-2016 08:53
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Theres two mailer companies, one does the warehouse, countdown etc and the other is new world, kfc, mitre 10 etc. Reach Media does the countdown one and the other is PMP distribution.

 

My kids did it for about 18 months, about 300 houses, but they averaged about $40-50/wk between them, not peanuts but not bad money for their age, plus the commitment / obligation of work is good. If you were to work it out at an hourly rate, it would be about $5/hour or thereabouts (would take 1-2 hours to fold and then another 1.5 hours between them to deliver, twice a week). They worked for PMP so had the local newspapers, metropol magazine etc to deliver which is why the weekly rate is a bit higher.

 

Ended up having a disagreement with PMP about them arbitrarily changing the run and adding another 50 houses / 1.5kms to the run without consultation, so that combined with the eldest starting high school brought an end to deliveries. I don't miss the folding one little bit....




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  Reply # 1677269 25-Nov-2016 10:54
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timmmay:

 

Move your letterbox so it meets NZPost standards. Until you've done that you're lucky you're getting mail.

 

 

Hmm, I will measure the height when I get home. I have only estimated the height when I posted the thread so it will be interesting to see what the height is.

 

 

 

The tricky part is how to move the mailbox. 

 

 

The mailbox in the photo is no longer that one, it is a different one now with a lower mail slot:

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1677271 25-Nov-2016 10:56
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sen8or:

 

Theres two mailer companies, one does the warehouse, countdown etc and the other is new world, kfc, mitre 10 etc. Reach Media does the countdown one and the other is PMP distribution.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, that answered my question perfectly.  I will get hold of these companies and find out what the story is.  If there is an issue with delivery then they will have been made aware of it and I can rectify it if there is a problem with the location of the mailbox or something.




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  Reply # 1677272 25-Nov-2016 11:01
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tdgeek:

 

Hmm. He doesnt deserve a job? He is not able bodied, good on him for doing something. 

 

Lazy?  He cannot reach

 

Confront him?

 

 How about catching him, have a quick chat, what you can do to get the junk mail. 

 

Of course there are no issues with other deliveries, I would assume they are by able bodied people.

 

 Sorry, but I do need to add a little tut tut

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I am not having a go at the person who is delivering the mail.  If he is genuinely unable to reach the mailbox I would understand, but when he passes other mailboxes that are at a much lower height I begin to wonder about work ethics (and no, these mailboxes don't have "No Junk Mail" signs on them.)

 

As I stated, I work during the day so no longer have the chance to catch him as he passes the street otherwise I would have done that already and discussed how I could work with him to fix the issue.

 

 


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  Reply # 1677397 25-Nov-2016 12:53
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The tricky part is how to move the mailbox.

Pole, hammer, lawn. You have mail : ).



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  Reply # 1677408 25-Nov-2016 13:25
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I would really prefer not to have to move the mailbox as it introduces a few issues, mainly how ugly it will be to have a random mailbox on a pole in the middle of the grass strip...

 

I might get a mail slot to attach to the wall for papers and for junk mail instead.  Provided I don't get a response from the marketing companies about why it isnt being delivered first.


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  Reply # 1678685 28-Nov-2016 10:43
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If the letterbox does not meet NZ Post standards, then NZ Post will advise
They did that to us several years ago and we eventually moved our letterbox.

 

In this case, it sounds like NZ Post doesn't have an issue with the location and the OP now has his answer as to possible points of contact.

 

When I did flyers several times, I was told that any house could have someone inside who worked for the company to do spot checks on delivery of "junk mail" 


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