PaknSave: See department for ingredients. Deceptive practice?

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#229156 9-Feb-2018 19:18

PaknSave in Paraparaumu has recently stopped listing ingredients for in-house baked products (eg, breads, cakes etc). The section on the label that used to list the ingredients has been replaced with the statement "See department for ingredients."

My partner bought some Bap buns today and decided to test out the new label. After about 10 minutes waiting as an employee looked through a file, they had to admit they couldn't advise what ingredients are in the baps.

There is plenty of room on the label listing ingredients, so is this laziness or deceptiveness behaviour from PaknSave?

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#1954508 9-Feb-2018 19:24

Interesting.

Looks like it doesn't need a list of ingredients

Foods that don't require any label at all include

food made and packaged where it is sold, or food packaged in front of you

https://www.mpi.govt.nz/food-safety/food-safety-for-consumers/food-labelling/

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#1954509 9-Feb-2018 19:24

Why did you remove the photo?

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#1954513 9-Feb-2018 19:31

Starscream122:

Why did you remove the photo?

It was the size of Texas so I didn't want to hog browser space. I've tried to re-size, so here goes ...

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#1954542 9-Feb-2018 19:46

Maybe write a letter to the store owner saying you won't buy products unless they list the ingredients, as you aren't happy that they have removed them, and that when you asked to know the ingredients, they weren't able to provide them? It isn't a good look they couldn't find them.

The thing is that it also could be a health and safety issue for people who have allergies. eg If you have a peanut or gluten allergy. I am surprised that it isn't a requirement. IMO food should also have country of origin labeling of main ingredient. I have seen food say packaged in NZ from NZ and/or imported ingredients. But potentially it all be imported ingredients, apart from it being packed in NZ. Or just the water or milk in it maybe NZ.

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#1954558 9-Feb-2018 20:23

i wonder what they're hiding or are they just being lazy

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#1954559 9-Feb-2018 20:31

Batman:

i wonder what they're hiding or are they just being lazy

Maybe they don't want to make an error by printing the wrong ingredients on it, esp if they change? Sometimes I have had the wrong label or description on supermarket printed labels.

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#1954566 9-Feb-2018 21:00

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#1954573 9-Feb-2018 21:37

To me that sounds like they are now bringing in pre-made "just bake in store" or just add water mix then bake.

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#1954575 9-Feb-2018 21:52

mattwnz:

Batman:

i wonder what they're hiding or are they just being lazy

Maybe they don't want to make an error by printing the wrong ingredients on it, esp if they change? Sometimes I have had the wrong label or description on supermarket printed labels.

I reckon if they can manage to put the correct ingredients into the product itself, it should be simple to get the label right as well.

They used to disclose the ingredients - it is only recently that they have stopped doing so.

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#1954582 9-Feb-2018 22:13

The still disclose on the label or packet here in Dunedin. Maybe north island is different

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#1954588 9-Feb-2018 22:52

I think it would be up to the store.

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#1954596 9-Feb-2018 23:20

Buy other bread with labels???

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#1954597 9-Feb-2018 23:22

Why would food made on the premises or packaged in front of you be exempt from the labelling requirement?

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#1954599 9-Feb-2018 23:28

Geektastic:

Why would food made on the premises or packaged in front of you be exempt from the labelling requirement?

So every time you went to subway, you expect a food label? A pizza shop? Sandwich bar? Food court? Bunnings BBQ sausage?

Seriously?

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#1954635 10-Feb-2018 08:14

blakamin:

Geektastic:

Why would food made on the premises or packaged in front of you be exempt from the labelling requirement?

So every time you went to subway, you expect a food label? A pizza shop? Sandwich bar? Food court? Bunnings BBQ sausage?

Seriously?

Every single one of those examples is different - they're not pre-packaged products which is a key differentiating factor.

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