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#272797 16-Jul-2020 16:05
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Looking for ideas or explanations ...

 


For a number of years I have been helping a friend with DVD copying/burning, and all have worked well in his player until recently.
These are all legal, privately owned video files, so no copyright matters involved.

 

Using good brand DVD's I have burned several disks with various formats (.vob, .ts, .mov, mpg etc etc), and all have previously played on friend's player with no problems.
Recently I burned another set of files for him, but all have refused to be recognised by the player ... just the opening blue screen and a 'loading' message whilst the disk 'hunts' (can hear the whirring sound) until it quits.

 

I've always used DVD+R for him, even though the specs for the player say both + and - are compatible.  Burning has always been at the slowest speed possible (in the past that was best option to get home-burning playing in any DVD player).
All the disks I created play fine in my very old Dick Smith DVD player!

 

In case the write or read lasers in my PC's disk drive had faulted or moved slightly, I used another portable disk drive for burning. Also tested friends DVD player by playing one of the disks I created some months ago, and it plays fine!.

 

The only other variance I could think of was the burning software (original was Nero, although Windows 10 burner worked previously too), so used three different burning software apps, all to no avail.
I also tried converting the video files to another format in case the DVD player had some sort of conversion or software glitch within it, but as I said it plays commercial disks and ones I'd burned some time ago.

 

Maybe Gremlins or covid is living in the player?


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  #2524209 16-Jul-2020 16:11
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I read something recently about many models from one brand of DVD player not playing DVDs any more because of a software issue. Can't remember the details but you might be able to find something about it.




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  #2524219 16-Jul-2020 16:24
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@timmmay ... sure, but the DVD player is old, and still plays older burned disks.  Also, the Firmware has never been touched.


 
 
 
 


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  #2524225 16-Jul-2020 16:42
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I was always under the impression -R for video compatibility/older laser as it was the original format.

 

And + for random read/data storage/newer to avoid any Dye or method changes.




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  #2524230 16-Jul-2020 16:52
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@Oblivian ... I tried both disk formats 😋 this time, and the +R had worked fine previously.


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  #2524231 16-Jul-2020 16:55
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Oblivian:

 

I was always under the impression -R for video compatibility/older laser as it was the original format.

 

And + for random read/data storage/newer to avoid any Dye or method changes.

 

 

It's much of muchness. It's just how the data is written to the disc, but the end result is the same for whatever.

 

This explains it quite well (channel is good value too!):

 


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  #2525944 20-Jul-2020 10:53
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Is it a Samsung DVD player? If so have a look at this article.




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  #2525952 20-Jul-2020 11:01
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@timmmay ... DVD player is a 10-year old Sony, and not connected to internet 😬


 
 
 
 


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  #2526441 21-Jul-2020 11:28
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Are you copying DVD movies ? ie making backups of bought DVD's
If so , could be some anti-pirating issue

 

Are you using the same software to do the copying/burning

 

Or, are you simply copying mp3,mp4, avi's etc straight onto the disk.
If so there may be codec issues

 

As a test, take one of the previously copied disks, that will play/read . Make a copy of THAT disk & see if it plays

 

 

 

Otherwise, I'll bet the DVD player is simply starting to die.
When the laser starts to fail you can get strange behavior : reads some disks but not others .
If they play on other machines but not the one in question, that points to an issue with the machine itself
Get another . Dirt cheap on trademe .

Or copy them to a USB Hard drive instead.
Many TV's & DVD/Blu ray player will play from USB HD's .


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  #2526471 21-Jul-2020 11:57
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Players do not last for ever.

 

In my experience (primarily with CDR) players lasers deteriorate/go out of alignment/focus over time and stop playing disks. This also affects comercially pressed media, however burnt media seems to be harder to read and will give trouble sooner than professionally pressed media.

 

So there may be nothing wrong with the media and nothing wrong with your writing software - the player is probably just starting to show it's age. The fact that another player plays the media fine supports this conclusion.


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  #2526485 21-Jul-2020 12:05
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Player compatibility with burnt DVDs has always been a bit of a Dark art,

 

To be honest the solution may be to move your friend on to directly playing the files off an external HDD or USB sticks,...

 

A number of DVD players will allow this,  and it would certainly remove the time and effort needed to burn the physical media...




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  #2526548 21-Jul-2020 13:58
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Thank you all for comments and opinions ... as per original post and subsequent answers, I've tried just about everything, therefore tend to agree with the conclusion that the DVD player is getting old and silly 😊

 

The owner is elderly/set in their ways, so moving to hard/flash drive has been difficult (even though TV would allow this) .... but at least all the disks are playable/viewable on his computer.

 

 


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  #2526775 21-Jul-2020 20:59
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So why not just get him a new dvd player? They are as cheap as chips nowadays, I have seen off-brand ones in sales for less than $30. Paradoxically, off-brand no-name models are probably more likely to play nice with burned discs than premium branded ones in my (admittedly dated) experience.

 

Personally, I haven't played a disc in a player attached to a TV for years. I have just ripped all my DVDs and CDs to a media server, and store the discs in binders in the garage in case of irrecoverable failure of the media player. If he is comfortable using a computer, this might be the best solution.


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  #2531032 29-Jul-2020 20:04
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Yes, I bought a little USB DVD drive to use with a laptop and it works really well.

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