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Topic # 86414 6-Jul-2011 10:47
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hey guys, just been looking at VPN providers.
first off i checked out Your Freedom. they claim to have NZ servers, but it recommends i use the USA server... which is not ideal for gaming (high pings).
so im wondering what a good NZ VPN service would be? im prepared to pay for it, and it will be used for <10 hrs gaming a week and steam game updates.
thanks in advance




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  Reply # 489965 6-Jul-2011 10:49
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Why do you need a VPN just to download Steam updates and play games? They work just fine on the regular internet, you know.




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  Reply # 490010 6-Jul-2011 12:22
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Attempting to bypass filtering/QOS?




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  Reply # 490023 6-Jul-2011 12:55
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SaltyNZ: Why do you need a VPN just to download Steam updates and play games? They work just fine on the regular internet, you know.


Certain games predominantly mmo's that use tcp/ip (rather than UDP) like Wow, Aion, Guildwares that are hosted in the US do benefit from using a ssh tunnel with a US endpoint.  It allows you to bypass/alter features of tcp/ip (naggle alogorithm, tcp no delay etc) selectively. Acknowledgements are also be sent by the end point at local latency rather so the next lots of packets are sent sooner.

Otherwise for pretty much every other type of game (fps, rts etc) I doubt there's any benefit to using a "vpn".

Steam updates don't see any benefit unless you are trying to get around some kind of filtering.

Also can't see any benefit in a NZ based vpn except to get around some kind of filtering. 

Is this a uni or work internet connection? 

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  Reply # 490026 6-Jul-2011 13:02
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Well, that's what I'm thinking. Some MMOs *might* get some benefit - I'm looking at YOU, Eve Online - although at the end of the day it's still got to go over the internet. Would it help enough to make a bad player passable, or a good player a great one? I'd have thought strategy and being a Level 71 Orc would be more important than twitch reflexes in an MMO.

Steam gets your location from your billing address & credit card, so a VPN won't help much. Certainly not enough that I'd pay money for one, anyway.

If it were so you could watch Netflix or something I could understand.




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  Reply # 490053 6-Jul-2011 13:57
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hey guys, sorry i should have added the info.
its for uni, they think gaming takes up a lot of bandwith and the only bypass is a VPN.
last year numerous people (30+ people) used "Your Freedom" to access the internet for steam. i not too bothered about the download rate (leave pc on all day anyways)... but its more the ping side of things. im not sure what pings there were getting, but they were playing games like WOW, where 200 ping is ok. or heroes of newerth where 200 ping is fine. whereas ill be on Counter strike or black ops, where 200 ping = death

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  Reply # 490062 6-Jul-2011 14:05
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SaltyNZ: Well, that's what I'm thinking. Some MMOs *might* get some benefit - I'm looking at YOU, Eve Online - although at the end of the day it's still got to go over the internet. Would it help enough to make a bad player passable, or a good player a great one? I'd have thought strategy and being a Level 71 Orc would be more important than twitch reflexes in an MMO.



Depends on the game, back when I played wow a few years ago the difference was 150-180ms vs ~300ms, so yes did made quite a noticeable difference to me.  

An mini industry sprung up around providing the service for a small fee, eg:
http://www.wowtunnels.com/
http://www.lowerping.com/


But those are specific to certain games to proxy Steam you'd may have to DIY eg:
http://blog.devkinetic.com/term/archived/tunneling-steam-through-socks-and-ssh





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  Reply # 490064 6-Jul-2011 14:08
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hey man, thanks for the reply ill dive into those links soon. if its a VPN i wont have to adjust steam, i tried ultra VPN and the free version of Your Freedom and steam worked like a charm




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  Reply # 490066 6-Jul-2011 14:09
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would those work with counter strike etc? seems to be WOW based (i hate wow)




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  Reply # 490067 6-Jul-2011 14:09
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If they don't have local servers and you want one you may have to rent a NZ VPS setup open vpn on it yourself.

Otherwise higher latency from YourFreedom is better than nothing I guess.



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  Reply # 490071 6-Jul-2011 14:16
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yea im keen to rent a NZ vpn, just got to find one..
thanks 




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  Reply # 494419 17-Jul-2011 23:01
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hey mate..I have been paying for a VPN service mostly for off peak downloads (to get full speed Wink) and Hulu streaming.. not sure what server locations you need for your gaming but you can check these guys out http://vpnv6.com 

The other really cool thing is I'm getting IPv6 straight off their VPN connection without making any config on my end..I see that they have some free trial at the moment, check out http://facebook.com/vpnv6 maybe you can test and see if gaming latency is ok with their servers. Hope this helps.



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  Reply # 494430 17-Jul-2011 23:35
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sti2envy: hey mate..I have been paying for a VPN service mostly for off peak downloads (to get full speed Wink) and Hulu streaming.. not sure what server locations you need for your gaming but you can check these guys out http://vpnv6.com 

The other really cool thing is I'm getting IPv6 straight off their VPN connection without making any config on my end..I see that they have some free trial at the moment, check out http://facebook.com/vpnv6 maybe you can test and see if gaming latency is ok with their servers. Hope this helps.


cheers for the help mate, ill get onto it now




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  Reply # 494444 18-Jul-2011 06:50
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I used wow tunnels for wow (when Orcon was having a problem to the US). It worked well. They do other ganes too but havent tried any of them.



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  Reply # 494459 18-Jul-2011 08:14
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i tried the "http://vpnv6.com" one day trial. it connects to their server for password and login details correctly, but open vpn just wont connect to it. tried like 5 open vpn re installs -.- i have the latest version fully updated but it cant seem to connect




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