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Charles000

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#321412 21-Apr-2010 18:34

sneaks: how can i clear the information completely? i am now thinking that it was most likely from me leaveing my computer open... thanks for all the advice

It doesn't matter whether you're at home or at work, leaving your computer unlocked is a big no-no.

Does he have access to the router? It could be logging connections. But I still think the most likely scenario is him having direct access to your machine.

sneaks

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#321575 22-Apr-2010 09:42

Charles000:
sneaks: how can i clear the information completely? i am now thinking that it was most likely from me leaveing my computer open... thanks for all the advice
It doesn't matter whether you're at home or at work, leaving your computer unlocked is a big no-no.

Does he have access to the router? It could be logging connections. But I still think the most likely scenario is him having direct access to your machine.

yep he has access to he router all the passwords etc, i can easily get these aswell. for some reason i doubt he has been on my machine.

how do i access the router and delete the connections so i dont have to worry about this anymore...

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#321596 22-Apr-2010 10:42

Not all, if any consumer routers store this information...

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sneaks

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#321639 22-Apr-2010 12:25

freitasm: Not all, if any consumer routers store this information...

you, my friend are a wealth of information. thank you.

Zach

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#322696 25-Apr-2010 16:20

What extent are you going to to "browse privately"?

Don't access info that you're worried people will find out about, but that's another discussion...

mindoka

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#322793 25-Apr-2010 20:46

you say he has access to the router... what's the model of it?

i just did a quick check and in my standard netgear dsl modem it would be possible to set up the firewall to filter with allow and LOG everything in and out.

i did not try to see what kind of log it produces, but i think it'd be pretty much conclusive.

if he did that i would think it's some sort of breach of the privacy laws; call the police, he'll crack down in the interrogation.

for the other stuff.

i would expect ISPs here too collecting statistical and billing data, netflow or so; and if someone accesses that in TNZ i would hope the system leaves mark to the log someone has accessed it. (mandatory from where i come from).

you may be sounding overly paranoid to anyone to whom you'd be telling the story; but if i'd be you i might even inform the TNZ there is a potential breach and name people. privacy violations in my books are pretty serious even when suspected, i'd hope companies here think the same. since you're not just revenging to some people (right?) blowing a whistle, even if it's the false alarm, is not wrong or humiliating.

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#322815 25-Apr-2010 21:52

It's rather unlikely that a consumer router can keep any significant amount of logging information in a way that can survive a power cycle. There simply isn't enough nvram on board.

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#322912 26-Apr-2010 10:27

Zach: What extent are you going to to "browse privately"?

Don't access info that you're worried people will find out about, but that's another discussion...

just private browsing on firefox...

when im looking at potential investments i dont want people to know what im thinking...

Zach

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#323070 26-Apr-2010 15:02

Are you sure he can't access your laptop? I don't know about Mac and any traces it may leave behind but he may be able to looked at cached DNS lookups or your flash cookies (LSO).

When you log into your router, check the firmware (factory or custom like Tomato/DD-WRT that may use logs) and check the if the DNS addresses are 208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220 (Does OpenDNS still let you view visited URLs for free?).

He could easily find info on various ways to log your website requests, and with a friend who works for an ISP means they know about networking (that doesn't imply he would risk his job using inside-job tools however).

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#323232 26-Apr-2010 20:29

How do you know he's not just dropping names of sites to see if you react? I.e. he may be just guessing.

There is always the open dns path (assuming logging there) (Thanks Zach).

How clued up is your flatmate? Could he be running his own DNS and routing your queries through it? (It won't make a lick of difference for "private browsing", your machine still needs to know how to resolve the dodgy sites).

(Does your flatmate visit GZ? :-))

sneaks

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#323419 27-Apr-2010 09:50

hes not that clued up, which is why i suspect outside interference. im really hoping he doesnt vist GZ haha

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