Rumour has it that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB

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#130782 27-Sep-2013 15:04

I had a chat with an ISP today, and the rumour is that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB. CityLink are ditching the 10/10mb service and are upgrading CityLink customers to 100/100mb service whilst at the same time dropping the price to compete with UFB. Arrantly the price drop won't be as good as UFB prices but good enough to stay it you are an existing customer.

What have you heard about this?

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#903808 27-Sep-2013 15:18

makes sense. they'd probably try and squeeze as much money out of people before hand though

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#904704 29-Sep-2013 18:53

I am surprised it has taken this long.

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#904730 29-Sep-2013 19:59

Citylink are offering a P2P service. UFB is a GPON based service. They are very different offerings.There is no way Citylink would or could (or should) match GPON pricing with a P2P offering that offers dedicated CIR.

Whatever they do pricing wise it's ultimately going to be a very different product offering, so people need to decide what suits them best, with pros and cons to both.

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#904760 29-Sep-2013 20:46

sbiddle: Citylink are offering a P2P service. UFB is a GPON based service. They are very different offerings.There is no way Citylink would or could (or should) match GPON pricing with a P2P offering that offers dedicated CIR.

Whatever they do pricing wise it's ultimately going to be a very different product offering, so people need to decide what suits them best, with pros and cons to both.

It would probably be similar pricing to the UFB P2P Ethernet prices, and perhaps they will match the dark fibre prices as well? They would have to build in a premium for the SLAs they offer, which I haven't heard about Chorus doing (although they might).

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#904803 29-Sep-2013 22:19

jimbob79: I had a chat with an ISP today, and the rumour is that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB. CityLink are ditching the 10/10mb service and are upgrading CityLink customers to 100/100mb service whilst at the same time dropping the price to compete with UFB. Arrantly the price drop won't be as good as UFB prices but good enough to stay it you are an existing customer.

What have you heard about this?

What is Citylink? Is it available in Auckland?

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#904847 30-Sep-2013 07:30

webwat:
sbiddle: Citylink are offering a P2P service. UFB is a GPON based service. They are very different offerings.There is no way Citylink would or could (or should) match GPON pricing with a P2P offering that offers dedicated CIR.

Whatever they do pricing wise it's ultimately going to be a very different product offering, so people need to decide what suits them best, with pros and cons to both.

It would probably be similar pricing to the UFB P2P Ethernet prices, and perhaps they will match the dark fibre prices as well? They would have to build in a premium for the SLAs they offer, which I haven't heard about Chorus doing (although they might).

Chorus offer SLAs which are part of the UFB pricebook.

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#904848 30-Sep-2013 07:32

networkn:
jimbob79: I had a chat with an ISP today, and the rumour is that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB. CityLink are ditching the 10/10mb service and are upgrading CityLink customers to 100/100mb service whilst at the same time dropping the price to compete with UFB. Arrantly the price drop won't be as good as UFB prices but good enough to stay it you are an existing customer.

What have you heard about this?

What is Citylink? Is it available in Auckland?

Citylink offers a fibre network in Wellington and Auckland.

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#904917 30-Sep-2013 09:59

sbiddle:
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jimbob79: I had a chat with an ISP today, and the rumour is that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB. CityLink are ditching the 10/10mb service and are upgrading CityLink customers to 100/100mb service whilst at the same time dropping the price to compete with UFB. Arrantly the price drop won't be as good as UFB prices but good enough to stay it you are an existing customer.

What have you heard about this?

What is Citylink? Is it available in Auckland?

Citylink offers a fibre network in Wellington and Auckland.

Like P2P Fibre? The stuff that Chorus and Telstra have in the ground?

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#905125 30-Sep-2013 14:04

sbiddle:
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jimbob79: I had a chat with an ISP today, and the rumour is that CityLink is dropping it's prices to compete with UFB. CityLink are ditching the 10/10mb service and are upgrading CityLink customers to 100/100mb service whilst at the same time dropping the price to compete with UFB. Arrantly the price drop won't be as good as UFB prices but good enough to stay it you are an existing customer.

What have you heard about this?

What is Citylink? Is it available in Auckland?

Citylink offers a fibre network in Wellington and Auckland.

i think they also have a cable running down to chch that ends somewhere near the airport dont they?

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#905146 30-Sep-2013 14:29

sbiddle: Citylink are offering a P2P service. UFB is a GPON based service. They are very different offerings.There is no way Citylink would or could (or should) match GPON pricing with a P2P offering that offers dedicated CIR.

Whatever they do pricing wise it's ultimately going to be a very different product offering, so people need to decide what suits them best, with pros and cons to both.

That is a very good point, however citylink may need to maintain their ability to keep customers. Sure it might be P2P but if customers are going to leave because they dont specifically need a P2P connection (and GEPON will suit them fine), then citylink could have a problem.

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#908519 5-Oct-2013 16:52

Citilink could also install splitters in some of their pits and connect them up to GPON gear to compete with Chorus. Might be a good plan if they have enough drops in an area and would save putting powered nodes into basement of each building...

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#908528 5-Oct-2013 17:13

webwat: Citilink could also install splitters in some of their pits and connect them up to GPON gear to compete with Chorus. Might be a good plan if they have enough drops in an area and would save putting powered nodes into basement of each building...

Historically many Citylink connections were only ever Ethernet anyway - fibre to a building switch and then Ethernet from that to the customer in the building.