Should I bother with copper?

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#190919 16-Jan-2016 14:34

We are almost finished our new house build. Chorus only shows ADSL with fibre planned for "after 2017".

I'm strongly considering the Skinny Broadband instead of getting copper installed.

We currently are on naked fibre with no landline.

So, is there any compelling argument to bother getting copper installed?

Ps does anyone know the cost for getting copper installed?

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#1472625 16-Jan-2016 14:39

Are you in the Skinny coverage zone?

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#1472626 16-Jan-2016 14:43

RunningMan: Are you in the Skinny coverage zone?

Yes I am.

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#1472628 16-Jan-2016 14:46

Depending on where you are and how you built will help narrow how much your costs might be, but on average from customers I hear from it costs them lower 4 digits (do note this is only in feed back from customers while I'm doing the job, and not a quote or anything), assuming that you don't have access to a pillar on the boundary. Otherwise, standard install costs will apply. As for should you bother? I think definitely, if only so that you know you have a 20mm conduit laid to the boundary to bring the fiber through, and so that you can terminate the copper in your distribution cabinet in such a way that you can easily draw your fiber through to it, and rewire for Voice over Fiber at your distribution cabinet, too.

Do you have a pillar (grey rounded service box) on the edge of your boundary? If so, trench and lay a 20mm green conduit to that, with an end sticking up at the house near the cable entry point, and the pillar, and either get your sparky to install a draw string or a 2x telephone service lead, and you'll be ready to go pretty easily from there. Otherwise you can also just do an open trench and request the Chorus contractor to lay the duct and cable, although I'm not sure what the cost is for that.

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#1472638 16-Jan-2016 15:09

Section is large (5500m2).

There is a green rectangular pillar near the house on the fence line. I will check with the builder regarding the ducting as I believe that was part of the package.

So the question then is if we have the ducting in place is it worth getting copper?

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#1472650 16-Jan-2016 15:17

This is what is on the fence line. Power is in a separate black one.

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#1472652 16-Jan-2016 15:21

If that's there, worst case scenario is they have to do a regroup to add pairs for you to use, which I'd expect to be cheaper than a new loop or terminal, or if you're lucky they can just connect it up go a spare pair in there already. So yeah, I'd say it's be worth it, assuming you're in an area where the DSL is fast enough that you'll want internet. Maybe ask the neighbours before you commit.

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#1472690 16-Jan-2016 16:15

Hmm those pillars were used in the first couple of years of the UFB rollout and I've never seen one for copper but it's entirely possible they were. Are you 100% sure you're not in a new subdivision that it's got fibre?

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#1472698 16-Jan-2016 16:48

sbiddle: Hmm those pillars were used in the first couple of years of the UFB rollout and I've never seen one for copper but it's entirely possible they were. Are you 100% sure you're not in a new subdivision that it's got fibre?

Quite a number of copper DP's used this green one. We used to use them at the top of a right-of-way when they were lots of ducts to fit in. Then also there were plenty of new subdivisions done entirely with the green box.
Really annoying because you had to dig an enormous hole to get them in the ground!

Edit: OP - Yes you should get the chorus duct put in and a copper cable installed. Assuming you are in a Chorus UFB area this will mean a simple install without trenching when it comes to the UFB install.

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#1472734 16-Jan-2016 17:28

Best thing to do is remove the cover on that plinth and see if you got fibre or copper underneath. You'll need a 7/16" or 11 mm socket to do this.

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#1472741 16-Jan-2016 17:36

Those plinth style cts are definitely used for copper, they normally have a quiet front style ct and are a dedicated group instead of an rlg, usually with a cable joint in the ground for access to the ct cable tail.

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#1472775 16-Jan-2016 18:36

Thanks all I'll take the lid off and check. Yes definitely no fibre. While it's a new build it's not a new sub-division :-(

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#1473152 17-Jan-2016 14:02

So I was at the site today and took the cover off. I was on the way out so didn't have a super good look.

The green cover has a small grey box in it and there is one set of wires hooked up - most likely the neighbours. They weren't around so couldn't ask them what they had.

From what I could see there are two black wires, one of which is the hooked up one. I assume the other is ducted under our house. I'll talk to the sparky tomorrow.

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#1473157 17-Jan-2016 14:09

sbiddle: Hmm those pillars were used in the first couple of years of the UFB rollout and I've never seen one for copper but it's entirely possible they were. Are you 100% sure you're not in a new subdivision that it's got fibre?

Our old grey pillar was swapped out for one of those green ones no fibre here (Tamatea) either till sometime next year

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#1473184 17-Jan-2016 14:38

If you can only get ADSL, and are happy to be limited to 60gb, Get Skinny, it'l be worth it for the speed.

If 60gb isn't enough, Get ADSL

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#1473186 17-Jan-2016 14:39

Yabanize: If you can only get ADSL, and are happy to be limited to 60gb, Get Skinny, it'l be worth it for the speed. If 60gb isn't enough, Get ADSL

Or 2 Skinnys ;-)

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