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noob

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#207777 13-Jan-2017 12:30

Heya

I'm with Orcon right now and have my domain hosted at Domains4less. Wanting to switch to Inspire as an ISP. They want to host my domain as well. Is that an okay thing or am I better to stay with my domain hosted not at my ISP? I am thinking that that would make it harder to shift ISPs in the future? Any advice welcome.

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#1702659 13-Jan-2017 13:22

No need to move your domain away from Domain4less. If you are happy with it leave.
As long as you know how to manage your domain / DNS etc then its fine.
Only service I have with Orcon at the moment is domain name however will be moving that off shortly as there portal doesn't TLD etc and have some inconsistency.

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#1702701 13-Jan-2017 13:43

I would highly recommend keeping them separate, just like email. you should make the process of switching ISPs as easy as possible, so just do internet through them, use others for email, domains, voip. IMO.

mattwnz

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#1702713 13-Jan-2017 14:14

Maybe look for another ISP if they are doing that. There is no reason to have your domain with your ISP

deadlyllama

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#1702721 13-Jan-2017 14:34

What are you doing with your domain? Do you want Inspire to host email or a web site using it?

If your email and web hosting will be with someone else (domains4less?), then no, Inspire don't need to have the domain transferred to them.

If email or web hosting for the domain will be with Inspire Net, then it makes their life simpler if the domain is with them too. For non-technical customers, of an ISP with customer service as good as Inspire's, I would suggest this was the right thing to do. Yes, it does make shifting ISPs again more of a pain.

Edit: note that if you don't have the domain hosted with Inspire Net, don't expect their helpdesk to be able to help with anything that goes wrong with it. They might, but I wouldn't count on it.

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#1702727 13-Jan-2017 14:56

I thought that this question seemed familiar.

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#1702730 13-Jan-2017 15:02

I consider domain hosting, web hosting, and providing an internet connection to be entirely separate things, and would be wary of any ISP that's pushy and tries to get you to bring all your services to them.

It's a bit like I'd never use or trust any ISP that tries to sell me power, or a power company that tries to sell me internet. Expertise in one does NOT guarantee expertise in the other.

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#1702787 13-Jan-2017 15:57

Lias:

I consider domain hosting, web hosting, and providing an internet connection to be entirely separate things, and would be wary of any ISP that's pushy and tries to get you to bring all your services to them.

It's a bit like I'd never use or trust any ISP that tries to sell me power, or a power company that tries to sell me internet. Expertise in one does NOT guarantee expertise in the other.

In the 1990s many/most ISPs offered you web space and email with your dialup account. Running web & email hosting requires competent systems administrators & network engineers, servers, routers, and internet bandwidth. Other parts of being an ISP also require competent systems administrators & network engineers, servers, routers, and internet bandwidth.

Would you trust a phone company to sell you an internet connection? Before VoIP, the phone side of things was quite different to the internet side -- the point of contact between the two was the billing system.

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mattwnz

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#1702837 13-Jan-2017 18:06

deadlyllama:

Lias:

I consider domain hosting, web hosting, and providing an internet connection to be entirely separate things, and would be wary of any ISP that's pushy and tries to get you to bring all your services to them.

It's a bit like I'd never use or trust any ISP that tries to sell me power, or a power company that tries to sell me internet. Expertise in one does NOT guarantee expertise in the other.

In the 1990s many/most ISPs offered you web space and email with your dialup account. Running web & email hosting requires competent systems administrators & network engineers, servers, routers, and internet bandwidth. Other parts of being an ISP also require competent systems administrators & network engineers, servers, routers, and internet bandwidth.

Would you trust a phone company to sell you an internet connection? Before VoIP, the phone side of things was quite different to the internet side -- the point of contact between the two was the billing system.

From my experience, one service usually has priority over another. ISPs I have used, that also offer hosting, the hosting support has been poor compared to a standalone host, where their reputation is built on that hosting service alone. Some are just reselling other providers services anyway.

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#1702901 13-Jan-2017 20:38

I would say you would struggle to find another residential/business ISP that would give you the support Inspire will give you.

They really are a fantastic company. They have grown a lot from the early days but support has never changed.

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#1703222 14-Jan-2017 15:42

deadlyllama:

In the 1990s many/most ISPs offered you web space and email with your dialup account.

Yes I know.. I started using the internet via a 1200 baud modem before there really were ISP's, and I worked for a couple of crappy little boutique ones back in the days when everyone and his dog wanted to start an ISP.

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#1703238 14-Jan-2017 16:36

You need to explain what you're using your domain for.

noob

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#1703630 15-Jan-2017 17:45

I have two domains - one is my own name email address and the other is for my website (a simple website that I used squarespace for and that just mostly sits there).

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#1703631 15-Jan-2017 18:01

In this case you don't need to host with your ISP.

Also the domain registrar shouldn't be with your ISP either.

Like said before, keep these things separate to make it easier to move from one ISP to another.

noob

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#1703724 15-Jan-2017 20:00

I like keeping things separate in principle. Though from what I've heard Inspire is really good (I'm not that tech savvy) so maybe it would be better to go with them for email (though it shouldn't be necessary to go with them for domain registration, should it?)