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beaglenz

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#210425 27-Mar-2017 06:16

I live in rural Auckland and can see (line of sight) just about every antenna across the region including the Skytower. Does anyone know if there are ISPs or network providers that have close-to-fibre speed solutions that I can use at home. I can get both Spark (Skinny) and Vodafone 4G but they are pretty costly for bandwidth and don't provide static IP.

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#1748439 27-Mar-2017 07:07

Not sure of any providers now. A few years back I knew of one. This one in particular has shut down a lot of their wireless links as most people can get UFB now and paying for windows space is not worth it.

What you will find is the providers that may do a wireless link off the sky tower will charge quite a bit. And a lot of them need to have a window that points in the area that you require.

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#1748446 27-Mar-2017 07:21

Yes there are plenty that offer wireless services off Sky Tower - but the simple fact you consider Skinny expensive means the answer to your question would mean it's unlikely to be a realistic option for you.

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#1748480 27-Mar-2017 08:30

There are other RBI resellers and some can offer static IP: http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/rbi-wireless.html

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#1748499 27-Mar-2017 09:04

Give Wireless Nation a call: https://wirelessnation.co.nz/

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#1749121 28-Mar-2017 01:12

Setup your own wireless link to someone who has UFB.

beaglenz

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#1749133 28-Mar-2017 04:43

Aredwood:

Setup your own wireless link to someone who has UFB.

Thought of that option but don't know anyone that I have LOS too.

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#1749848 29-Mar-2017 02:17

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

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beaglenz

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#1749852 29-Mar-2017 05:27

Aredwood:

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

I currently have VDSL at ↓ 56,0 Mbit/s↑ 10,5 Mbit/s which I know half this forum will say I should be happy with but when I look at your speeds I get very envious.

BTW, I'm out South in the Karaka Point area.

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#1749859 29-Mar-2017 07:06

beaglenz:
Aredwood:

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

I currently have VDSL at ↓ 56,0 Mbit/s↑ 10,5 Mbit/s which I know half this forum will say I should be happy with but when I look at your speeds I get very envious.

BTW, I'm out South in the Karaka Point area.

On wireless you may get a bit more, you may get slightly less. This is a good VDSL connection. And the stability is probably better than wireless will be. To be honest it's not worth the effort.

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#1749861 29-Mar-2017 07:11

beaglenz:

Aredwood:

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

I currently have VDSL at ↓ 56,0 Mbit/s↑ 10,5 Mbit/s which I know half this forum will say I should be happy with but when I look at your speeds I get very envious.

BTW, I'm out South in the Karaka Point area.

Unless you're willing to pay *significantly* more than you currently pay you're not going to get better on wireless. Your download speeds may even be worse, but upload may be better depending on the technology and provider.

You're certainly not going to get a connection from Skytower that will deliver anything faster over that distance realistically unless it's a DMR link.

What do you need faster speeds for?

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#1749862 29-Mar-2017 07:18

UHD cat videos by any chance?

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#1749881 29-Mar-2017 08:06

darylblake:
beaglenz:

Aredwood:

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

I currently have VDSL at ↓ 56,0 Mbit/s↑ 10,5 Mbit/s which I know half this forum will say I should be happy with but when I look at your speeds I get very envious.

BTW, I'm out South in the Karaka Point area.

On wireless you may get a bit more, you may get slightly less. This is a good VDSL connection. And the stability is probably better than wireless will be. To be honest it's not worth the effort.

Says the man with gigabit speeds!

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#1749886 29-Mar-2017 08:17

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#1749933 29-Mar-2017 09:36

beaglenz:

darylblake:
beaglenz:

Aredwood:

What do you currently use for internet? I would offer myself to provide a UFB link, especially as I have backup power for my ONT, router ect. But Im in an urban part of Auckland, And I can't see the sky tower from my house. So probably don't have line of sight to your house.

I currently have VDSL at ↓ 56,0 Mbit/s↑ 10,5 Mbit/s which I know half this forum will say I should be happy with but when I look at your speeds I get very envious.

BTW, I'm out South in the Karaka Point area.

On wireless you may get a bit more, you may get slightly less. This is a good VDSL connection. And the stability is probably better than wireless will be. To be honest it's not worth the effort.

Says the man with gigabit speeds!

For probably 98% of users your connection is going to deliver virtually the same end user experience and QOE as somebody on a Gigabit UFB connection.

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#1749969 29-Mar-2017 10:17

sbiddle:

beaglenz:

Says the man with gigabit speeds!

For probably 98% of users your connection is going to deliver virtually the same end user experience and QOE as somebody on a Gigabit UFB connection.

This ^

So basically what Steve is getting at is 100mbit and in most cases 50mbit is actually fine for 98% of users. To put it in perspective. I am currently building. So I am staying with my folks for another couple of months until my house is finished. We are on a 30/10mbit UFB plan. Its fine. There are 4 adults and 2 children in the house. If we are really giving the internet a thrashing, we have had 2 netflix streams going on at the same time in 1080p, 2x ipads, 4x smartphones and me playing overwatch all at the same time and I may have noticed 1~2ms difference in my latency in the game. This mainly comes down to having a 1/2 decent router as well.

It only becomes a very temporary problem when I download a lot of data, (Im talking maybe downloading a steam game 40GB or something), but even then TCP is usually fair enough to give me enough bandwidth to watch a 1080p netflix. And 30mbit doesn't take tooo long to download 40gig.

Yes my speedtest on my sig is really displaying a transit test between my companies office and Sydney. Unfortunately its not to my home. The property I am moving into can get 50/10 VDSL speed. Infact to be exact it is: 50392kbps down and 9640kbps up. I know this, because my sister owns the front house and has a VDSL connection there. UFB is not scheduled till 2019.

From your perspective the benefits of going with a wireless P2P link are:

1) If you share the cost of UFB with someone else it could work out cheaper.

2) You might be able to pull speeds of perhaps 100mbit using Nanostations/Nanobeams or similar gear from Cambrium.

The negatives are:

1) You need to contact the person you are connecting to if you have a connection problem, then get them to contact their ISP.

2) Your using Wireless Tech. So there are things that could interfere, such as obstruction to the fresnel zone for whatever reason and weather.

3) The additional gear required will cost around $400 at least.

If you do get a point to point link direct to sky tower I estimate it to be something in the price range of about $300/mth, however I could be very wrong here.

I am going to put a p2p link between my sisters house and mine because Its about 30 meters, and I cant be bothered running an outdoor cable up the side of the fence till I can get UFB. I know I will get greater than 50mbit over the wireless and. I know there is no obstruction. And I know that I pay for her internet connection, so my name is on the acct and I can ring up etc, and we are going to have keys for each others homes so I have site access. And I already have to Ubquiti Nanostation M5's sitting in a plastic box, doing nothing in the garage. So in my case my positives outweigh my negatives. But at the end of the day my internet connection speed until about 2019/2020 will be 50mbit. And I am pretty happy with that. It might jump a few more mbit when chorus release their next round of DLM updates, but I don't know.

I hope it helps with your decision. And good luck.

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