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mattwnz

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#239319 11-Jul-2018 22:55

What is normally the process for fibre install these days on a new build? We were contacted by the builder , wanting us to contact Chorus to get them to install the conduit in the building between the future ETP/ITP connection and the network distribution board, and also come back to install it in the trench from the house to the boundary when the trench is dug. But I thought, and according to the chorus website, it says that the electrician for the main build that handles all that.

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#2054685 11-Jul-2018 23:25

Yes that's right, that's a job for the electrician. Chorus doesn't install the conduit, that's up to you to organise.

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#2054689 11-Jul-2018 23:50

with a new build have a conduit installed right to the demarcation point so you dont have to have any ugly trunking in your nice new home :)

mattwnz

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#2054692 12-Jul-2018 00:37

dt:

with a new build have a conduit installed right to the demarcation point so you dont have to have any ugly trunking in your nice new home :)

Thanks. I am not entirely sure I understand were the demarcation point is . Is that the ETP box that normally gets installed on the outside of the building?. We got the electrician to install the green fibre conduit with the sweep into the slab and framing, so hopefully they can install an ITP on the inside face of the interior wall, instead of an ETP on the outside of the cladding. We don't really want an ETP on the outside of the cladding, and the fibre cutting through and bridging the cavity. The electrician don't seem all that clued up themselves with fibre, they said it was above their payscale.

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#2054699 12-Jul-2018 06:45

Hi, its called an ETP for a reason, its an External Termination Point, its on the outside so they can access it without need to access the owner. In the past I have managed to get an "ITP" installed but it was on a building that had unique cladding that did not support things screwed to it very well (think deep shist). The chorus guys did not seem to mind as they could see the external options were going to be painful for them. But in your case unless there is similar reasons I dont think they will allow it.

Sparkies in general don't have a clue beyond the basics, so don't expect anything there, is it really in such an obvious place that it will cause a visual issue

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#2054705 12-Jul-2018 07:29

Whats the cladding, sureley the builder would have built so many builds that they are aware of 'services' that attach to the outside of the build.

Its no big deal, the ETP will sit about just above knee height, no higher than waist (usually). If it was planned right, it would be on the side of the build, quite likley right near your meter box (which is causing a gap in your cladding anyway).

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#2054740 12-Jul-2018 09:01

Here's pretty much all the information you and your electrician need to know...

https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/wiring-broadband/who-will-install-wiring-fibre-broadband-if-im-building-new-house

https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/wiring-broadband/what-involved-cable-installation

https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/wiring/undergound-lead-in-pipe

https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/wiring-broadband/home-wiring-contractors

The views expressed by me are not necessarily those of my employer Chorus NZ Ltd

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#2054796 12-Jul-2018 09:56

My experience was that the builder/electrician set everything in place, from the corner of the section to the 'comms cupboard' in the garage, they provided conduit to suit, prior to move in the Chorus team came in and connected it direct to the ONT. There was no earlier contact with Chorus prior to do any of the prep work.

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#2054854 12-Jul-2018 10:33

mattwnz:

Thanks. I am not entirely sure I understand were the demarcation point is

I dont think I used to best terminology there, it was late :)

I was meaning to the point where the ONT is installed(internal).

when we had our house built 7ish years ago contractors didn't have a clue about Fibre so when it came around to us having it installed they had to install conduit up the side of the house into the study.

Mum built around the same time and after my experience I told her to have it installed into the patch panel box in the garage but even then they installed trunking along the wall in the garage to get to the patch panel.

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#2054878 12-Jul-2018 11:06

Remember field of dreams? If you build it - they will come

In this case, do the work for Chorus (within the building requirement specs) and they'll be happy as larry to connect you up. Make it hard (or do it wrong), it'll cost down the track.

Even if the builder/sparky isn't clued up. You can sure do some basic stuff yourself. Our 1st cabinet was too small for a switch and antennas. So we installed a 2nd, and ran our own conduit with an ethernet pair between. Right type of pipe, bend radius and so on incase it was ever to have fibre in it instead.