Fibre install 300 metres from new fibre install

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#272319 19-Jun-2020 13:51

Hi all, i'm moving to a semi rural property in November which currently has VDSL. I'm really keen to get fibre there if possible so looking on the Broandband map I found out a newly divided property has fibre there and they're all of 300 metres away. I spoke with Chorus who said check with your ISP as some off NGA install (i'm assuming this means a custom install?). I'm with Spark. Spoke with them...they don't offer this. Neither can tell me who does.

So...I'm keen to know who would / could offer this service and what type of costs are involved.

Any info appreciated.

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#2508137 19-Jun-2020 14:20

They don't all offer it, try some other providers. You won't be able to get a cost until you place a request, but don't expect it to be cheap.

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#2508138 19-Jun-2020 14:21

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@bulldognz I can see a quote of 150k plus coming your way, The fibre needs to go underground it's not going to be cheap

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#2508236 19-Jun-2020 15:40

NGA On Application: https://fullflavour.nz/rural-broadband/rural-fibre

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#2508244 19-Jun-2020 15:50

Thanks all. Yeah I'm picturing this being crazy money. Just frustrating knowing it's so close.

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#2508247 19-Jun-2020 15:52

300 meters is not that close if you are trenching!

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#2508268 19-Jun-2020 16:40

Just to give an idea I was quoted $60k for 500m down the road then 500m up my driveway.

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#2508269 19-Jun-2020 16:41

You'd think they could run it along the power lines until trenches could be financed by development

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#2508297 19-Jun-2020 17:26

bulldognz:

You'd think they could run it along the power lines until trenches could be financed by development

If its a new property development the property developer usually pays chorus 100s of 1000s of bucks to get fibre to each new property

https://www.chorus.co.nz/contact/new-property-development

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#2508308 19-Jun-2020 18:11

bulldognz:

Thanks all. Yeah I'm picturing this being crazy money. Just frustrating knowing it's so close.

We've got fibre running right past our gate on our rural property and have been given an estimate of around $10k to get connected.

Have paid FullFlavour to get Chorus out here and do a proper plan and quote, just waiting on them...

We have no ADSL/VDSL here and cell coverage is basically nothing.
Our only way of getting the internet currently, other than expensive satellite, is a local WISP.

They've actually been really great and the connection is good but speed is only 20/6 on a good day and a 555GB cap.
With both me and my wife working from home, and two boys that love to watch Youtube, and do more and more stuff online, we do need a better connection so hopefully, that estimate is close.

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#2508324 19-Jun-2020 18:42

Make friends with your neighbours and do a point to pint wireless link.

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#2508755 20-Jun-2020 15:01

DarkShadow:
Make friends with your neighbours and do a point to pint wireless link.

If you have line of sight, and the owners of the given property are not going anywhere any time soon! this would be the best option, just get port two livened on their ONT and give them $15 odd (if that) a month to cover the power. Just be nice and run the cable properly, at the end of the day it’s not your home and they would be doing you a favour :)

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#2575496 28-Sep-2020 16:55

CYaBro:

bulldognz:

Thanks all. Yeah I'm picturing this being crazy money. Just frustrating knowing it's so close.

We've got fibre running right past our gate on our rural property and have been given an estimate of around $10k to get connected.

Have paid FullFlavour to get Chorus out here and do a proper plan and quote, just waiting on them...

We have no ADSL/VDSL here and cell coverage is basically nothing.
Our only way of getting the internet currently, other than expensive satellite, is a local WISP.

They've actually been really great and the connection is good but speed is only 20/6 on a good day and a 555GB cap.
With both me and my wife working from home, and two boys that love to watch Youtube, and do more and more stuff online, we do need a better connection so hopefully, that estimate is close.

I finally got my quote back from Chorus, only taken since the 21st May!
Unfortunately, it's come back more than I'd hoped so won't be doing it right now.
May relook at it next year.
It came to a total of $13,935.32.

It's a massive total of 4m from the current roadside fibre to the pole on our boundary where they would trench to and then run up the pole and replace the aerial copper from there to the house.

If that's the cost for 4m I'd hate to know what it would cost to go 300m!

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#2575509 28-Sep-2020 17:37

Now we see how all of our health and safety law etc. really has an impact on the price of things....

If you trench to your house and lay your own fibre can you just get them to quote to get to your driveway and the final connection at the building?

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#2575517 28-Sep-2020 17:58

Zeon:

Now we see how all of our health and safety law etc. really has an impact on the price of things....

If you trench to your house and lay your own fibre can you just get them to quote to get to your driveway and the final connection at the building?

Wouldn't make much difference to my quote I suspect since it's an aerial installation from the telephone pole to our house.
Maybe someone here knows what the parts listed actually are and what they're worth?

This is what the quote says:

There is a 12 fibre cable running past the boundary of this property.
1. Cut a flex joint into the cable outside the property.
2. Trench and lay 50mmP from joint to the pole.
3. Install OFDC on pole.
4. Lay 24F between the joint and the OFDC.
5. Joint fibres 9-10 off 12F to 24F.
6. Run a patchcord from ENF/L200/9 to ENF/D-POS01

Provisioning to:
Connect to the splitter.
Provision from FAT to the house.
Install FTP.
Install and commission ONT.

Use existing pole and provisioning will replace copper connection to fibre connection.
Any increase to the depth and area of the joint hole shall be a variation.

Part no: - Description:

ENZ-RIBDI1/SL - Ribbonet DI duct, 5mm, 1-way, Per m Short Length service - Qty: 4
60056817 - Cable 24F LT Blue Nylon sheath G657-A2, UPTO any length - Qty: 17
EL6361-000 - MJC-FOSC-KIT1-NZ01 - Qty: 1
1155162-9 - OFDC-B8G-LX24-08-NN-N-KIT-NZ1 - Qty: 1
1155163-1 - OFDC-B8G-TENIO-TRAY-KIT-NZ01 - Qty: 1
1155154-5 - OFDC-MOBRA-A4/B8/B8G-FAT-NZ01 - Qty: 1

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#2575533 28-Sep-2020 18:36

zenourn:

Just to give an idea I was quoted $60k for 500m down the road then 500m up my driveway.

Do you think they'd give a discount if you dug the driveway trench yourself.

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