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Topic # 27255 19-Oct-2008 23:05
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Saw this on a forum I was on... WOW!!!! Surprised

No Fair!


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Reply # 172172 20-Oct-2008 01:07
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Never. Welcome to New Zealand...

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  Reply # 172173 20-Oct-2008 01:09
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Screeb: Never. Welcome to New Zealand...


Liar.

@ OP Year 3020.

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  Reply # 172180 20-Oct-2008 07:53
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When do we expect to get these speeds?

When people realise that internet bandwidth costs big $$ and that you that the words "cheap" and "fast" can't be used in the same sentence.

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  Reply # 172192 20-Oct-2008 09:03
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maybe in 20yrs lol

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  Reply # 172210 20-Oct-2008 10:51
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sbiddle:
When people realise that internet bandwidth costs big $$ and that you that the words "cheap" and "fast" can't be used in the same sentence.


This is true for NZ and AU only :) but not the rest of developed countries :)




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  Reply # 172219 20-Oct-2008 11:24
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If a second cable ever gets build I suspect things would change dramatically. There is certainly enough bandwidth on the SX cable to give us all much much better international speeds than we currently experience, but as sbiddle pointed out, capacity on this cable is very expensive.


My understanding is that the cable usually sits at below 15% utilization, which seems kind of wasteful, especially when there is talk of building a second cable.


Ultimately however, as it is, the owners of the SX cable (aside: Telecom have a large stake in it) basically have a monopoly, building a second cable would probably mean that prices come down for international capacity (competition) dramatically.

This is a long way off however and requires a HUGE amount of CAPEX. Any really, why would you bother? SX currently enjoy supernormal profits, however with competition these would quickly erode back to normal profits, which kind of removes the incentive for a second providers to spend all that cash building another cable.


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Reply # 172269 20-Oct-2008 15:37
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sbiddle: When do we expect to get these speeds?


I thought Biddle Corp was making good headway into this area?

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  Reply # 172301 20-Oct-2008 16:41
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adamj:

This is a long way off however and requires a HUGE amount of CAPEX. Any really, why would you bother? SX currently enjoy supernormal profits, however with competition these would quickly erode back to normal profits, which kind of removes the incentive for a second providers to spend all that cash building another cable.


More fibre go!




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  Reply # 172307 20-Oct-2008 16:58
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It's just not going to happen. Pesimistic? Realistic.




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  Reply # 172324 20-Oct-2008 17:33
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When do you expect them ?

When you move to another country or if you invest into buying some fiber!



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  Reply # 172665 22-Oct-2008 07:18
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Guys,

I wasn't saying that I believe that we should get these speeds as we are far from it. I just posted it as a cool post. I do realise international bandwidth and carrying data is expensive and personally I have no problems with NZ speeds most of the time

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  Reply # 172680 22-Oct-2008 08:12
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Im dreading returning to nz if the speeds and caps are as bad as some say but we'll see.

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  Reply # 172796 22-Oct-2008 15:24
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webup: Im dreading returning to nz if the speeds and caps are as bad as some say but we'll see.


There are plenty of other benefits to returning to NZ other than internet speed - trust me, with the cracker day we are having today, staying inside on the computer should be the last thing on your mind... Cool

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  Reply # 173107 23-Oct-2008 16:37
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sbiddle: When do we expect to get these speeds?

When people realise that internet bandwidth costs big $$ and that you that the words "cheap" and "fast" can't be used in the same sentence.


That's a surprise. technology gets faster, smaller and cheaper all the time so why can't the internet speeds.

You can get 24mbps connections in the UK for 24 pounds. Not to mention that the carphonewarehouse "was" doing free ADSL plans a while ago with a home phone line.

256 and 512k connections should be almost free, one day perhaps.


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  Reply # 173108 23-Oct-2008 16:41
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adamj:

This is a long way off however and requires a HUGE amount of CAPEX. Any really, why would you bother? SX currently enjoy supernormal profits, however with competition these would quickly erode back to normal profits, which kind of removes the incentive for a second providers to spend all that cash building another cable.




Yeah but how long do the cables last? and the better question would be how long until we are reaching capacity again so supply/demand dictates prices increase again?  *HD video downloads anyone*


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