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Topic # 7629 29-Apr-2006 14:42
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Just curious if theres a list of addresses or anything like that out there so i can see how far im away from an exchange... :)

Thanx in advance

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  Reply # 34270 29-Apr-2006 15:59
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menace: Just curious if theres a list of addresses or anything like that out there so i can see how far im away from an exchange... :)

Thanx in advance


Probably just easier to ask Telecom - they can do a line test and everything remotely.




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  Reply # 34316 30-Apr-2006 17:38
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They can tell you distance down to a few metres, Ohms of resistence and db of line noise if you ask :)

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 34317 30-Apr-2006 17:44
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So i should ring up telecom not xtra?

Just their normal service line or wat? : )

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  Reply # 34319 30-Apr-2006 18:03
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Telecom is Xtra and Xtra is Telecom, so when you're calling one, you're calling the other.

123 might be a good start.




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  Reply # 34322 30-Apr-2006 18:06
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juha: 123 might be a good start.


Yup, ring 123 and ask for a line check they can then forward this through to you. They close @ 9pm and should be able to email back within 2 hours or so from what I've experienced.



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  Reply # 34435 1-May-2006 18:59
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IM 4.5 kms away as stated by telecom...

hmm that nt tooo great but its nt too bad eather...

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  Reply # 34436 1-May-2006 19:03
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menace: IM 4.5 kms away as stated by telecom...

hmm that nt tooo great but its nt too bad eather...


In that case, you probably have to be a bit careful when it comes to the DSL modems. Some based on Rockwell chipsets don't work too good over 3-3.5km whereas the ones based on older Alcatel silicon are happy up to 5-6km. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what constitutes a good "long range" DSL modem at the moment. I guess if you go with what Xtra offers, and ask for a guarantee it'll work on your line, you have some comeback if it doesn't.




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  Reply # 35168 8-May-2006 08:22
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Apparently the "exchange" isn't nessesarily a big building with a Telecom sign on the outside. It can just be a green box by the side of the road where the fibreoptic meets the copper. Does anyone know whether Telecom will continue extending the fibreoptic out to the suburbs (and reducing our pings) or whether the unbundling will stop any investment in that direction? (no i don't work for Telefascist!). Will the other ISPs be able to fit their gear into these roadside boxes?




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  Reply # 35169 8-May-2006 08:26
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turb: Apparently the "exchange" isn't nessesarily a big building with a Telecom sign on the outside. It can just be a green box by the side of the road where the fibreoptic meets the copper. Does anyone know whether Telecom will continue extending the fibreoptic out to the suburbs (and reducing our pings) or whether the unbundling will stop any investment in that direction? (no i don't work for Telefascist!). Will the other ISPs be able to fit their gear into these roadside boxes?


They're called "roadside cabinets" and often have fibre-optic connectivity but not always. Telecom intends to decommission a bunch of exchanges and use roadside cabinets instead - makes a lot of sense, as they're not only cheaper, but shorten the local loop so that faster DSL technologies like ADSL2+ can be used.

Yes, the roadside cabinets are included in the government's regulatory blueprint.




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  Reply # 35177 8-May-2006 10:01
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juha:
turb: Apparently the "exchange" isn't nessesarily a big building with a Telecom sign on the outside. It can just be a green box by the side of the road where the fibreoptic meets the copper. Does anyone know whether Telecom will continue extending the fibreoptic out to the suburbs (and reducing our pings) or whether the unbundling will stop any investment in that direction? (no i don't work for Telefascist!). Will the other ISPs be able to fit their gear into these roadside boxes?


They're called "roadside cabinets" and often have fibre-optic connectivity but not always. Telecom intends to decommission a bunch of exchanges and use roadside cabinets instead - makes a lot of sense, as they're not only cheaper, but shorten the local loop so that faster DSL technologies like ADSL2+ can be used.

Yes, the roadside cabinets are included in the government's regulatory blueprint.


I'm sure this is going to make a few of the residents associations in Wgtn very unhappy when they get word of this! The same people that were anti TCL overhead cables and wanted everything underground where also anti the big green cabinets everywhere as well!

As a background Telecom essentially want to have a network that has a similair configuration to what TCL have in Wellington and Chch. Wellington has one main switch in Seaview with somewhere around 100 nodes covering the region. These nodes are all fed by fibre with copper and coax running out to the houses so you're looking at roughly 2km max to 99% of houses. Since TCL have never deployed DSL on their network distance isn't a big issue but their network gives you an idea of how Telecom want theirs to look.


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  Reply # 35186 8-May-2006 13:11
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TCL have deployed DSL 1 on their copper network, in Wellington (and CHCH i think), but it's only been available to business customers (Why should Res customers have it, when Res is covered by Cable?)


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  Reply # 35204 8-May-2006 18:28
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How does an exchange look like? Also, how does a "roadside cabinet" look like? Is it about the size of the traffic lights control box at every set of traffic lights?

I see a small green box outside my house, could it possibly be a "roadside cabinet"? I'm doubtful because I see one of those boxes at every two houses. If it's really the "roadside cabinet" we're talking about, I must commend Telecom for installing so many of these on my street!!! On the other hand, it could be one a "roadside cabinet" because my router says I'm about 1km away from the exchange. Hmm? And I don't see any huge building near me. Oh yeah, maybe Telecom has decided to spread the load of ADSL onto these "roadside cabinet" because I hear a lot of Mount Eden residents complaining about the speed? But if it really is the "roadside cabinet" why are there still complaining about the speed? Maybe it's not then?

I'll try take a photo of it sometime and upload it here.

The box is about 30cm tall from the ground though, so it's really small. If, say, ihug were to install their equipment on Telecom's network, will they have to install equipment onto the "roadside cabinet"? Is it the "blue" stuff Mark Rushworth was holding on TV last week that will be installed in these cabinets and exchange? That's pretty big to fit into something so small like the box outside my house, that is, if the box is really one of those "roadside cabinet".

Sorry for the ignorance... please comment.

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  Reply # 35206 8-May-2006 18:32
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If its 30cm high its definately not one, I have one down the end of my street (yet its still suprisingly slow internet - I think I'm hooked into one  10K away) There wide, almost as wide as some cars and as tall as a car at least.

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  Reply # 35208 8-May-2006 19:03
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JAMMAN2110: If its 30cm high its definately not one, I have one down the end of my street (yet its still suprisingly slow internet - I think I'm hooked into one 10K away) There wide, almost as wide as some cars and as tall as a car at least.


http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1186

They are basicly just external 19" cabinets. In Christchurch these units (see link above) are used for telephone. TV and Data are delivered on a second system which is housed in a completely seperate set of boxes that are much smaller and made of plastic.

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Yeah, thats one, I still don't believe I'm hooked into the one at the end of my street though. (about 8 houses down)

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