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Topic # 87287 24-Jul-2011 23:15
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I live in London and I'm trying to find out what speed is available now and in the future at my parents place in Hawke's Bay.

Is there one website I can go to that will tell me what speeds are available now and when fibre optic will be available, based on an address or phone number? 

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  Reply # 497462 24-Jul-2011 23:23
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Not really.
There is the telecom wholesale avaliability checker which will tell you ADSL, ADSL2+ and VDSL
http://www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/tw/public/website/wholesale/technologies/!ut/p/c5/vZLLDoIwFES_hS-4twZFllR5aQoiBbEbgsYoD4EYhNivV-NaVsaZ5SRzZjEg4OU66_Nz1uVNnVWQgJiluk98nRIDkWoUXUZpzLhN7LUKO0hQTcPi0bqylNtCBhMedT6_uQNbWqwrLx4rTtiZwySMqlUoM8LMRvJo6uNRJ7EVmMamx_sxUF5dYoSGnvbJ8YsMBM9prifYg9C-b54C_-HmUdZC_SOL_JS1AnGumsP7ARTaa986A5m_PRiK8gQ0cF24/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?pcid=35fccb8041c8eb7199c4ddfc582f5ccd



With the fibre to the home build out in urban centres, it isnt really mapped out as the different companies in each city will be creating their own maps when they get ready to build and make announcements.

If they are rural, the DSL will go a maximum of 5km from their local exchange or cabinet, and telecom cannot guarantee their ability to get broadband untill it is connected and tested as working.
All other ISP's are the same.

Are they urban or rural?




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  Reply # 497465 24-Jul-2011 23:48
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Thanks Ray. They're urban. Bluff Hill, Napier.

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  Reply # 497478 25-Jul-2011 01:18
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Okay,

ADSL2+ is in their area, and probably also VDSL. Its a cabnetised area with roadside ADSL2+ and VDSL2+ equipment.

All major ISP's should be able to provide service.




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  Reply # 497520 25-Jul-2011 10:44
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a slightly more user friendly link would be

www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/maps

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  Reply # 497762 25-Jul-2011 21:37
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Unison have announced free fibre connections to the business district:

Hastings, Napier and Havelock North, Onekawa and Hastings CBD are first in line. Currently max 1Gbps but could increase up to 10G if demand is there.

"RSP Neocom quoted Hawke's Bay Today a 10Mbps connection, with no data quantity cap, at $499 per month, 30Mbps with no data cap at $725 and 50Mbps with no data cap at $899. Prices were exclusive of GST"

Follow the link for details, more ISP's are mentioned in the article.

Let the expressions of jealously (and comparisons to TelstraClear's approach to similar problems) now commence ;   )




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  Reply # 497764 25-Jul-2011 21:43
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For home users this is the relevant part from the article:

"Unison Networks were enjoying a synergy with its fibre network. It was used both for internet connection and to monitor the performance/operation of its network - called the Smart Grid. Eventually all households would have Smart Meters on their premises to offer power-consumption options and at the same time provide fibre internet connections"




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  Reply # 497774 25-Jul-2011 21:54
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Unfortunatley, the companies that I would use the fibre network for, are no where near where they have put it up.

I thought about providing service over the fibre, but then figured, its not worth the effort because it doesnt go anywhere useful.

They basically built it to link the power stations, and a few schools along the way.




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  Reply # 500133 1-Aug-2011 03:48
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.

Seems silly that there's not more been done to create a high-speed fibre optic network in NZ.

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  Reply # 500134 1-Aug-2011 06:17
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Christiaan: Thanks guys, much appreciated.

Seems silly that there's not more been done to create a high-speed fibre optic network in NZ.


You're obviously oblivious to the UFB and the billions being spent by the Government to built fund it?




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  Reply # 500136 1-Aug-2011 06:22
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I was vaguely aware of it but it doesn't sound like my parents place will be getting fibre any time soon for instance.

When I moved to London from NZ back in 2002 the internet here in the UK was almost worse than NZ if I recall correctly. Now I'm on an uncapped 50 Mb fibre optic connection.

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  Reply # 500140 1-Aug-2011 07:43
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yes, isn't it strange how London has better IT infrastructure than Hawke's Bay. *rolls eyes*

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  Reply # 500149 1-Aug-2011 08:23
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Now I'm on an uncapped 50 Mb fibre optic connection.


Are you sure its a fibre connection (it may well be) but if its the BT Infinity product (or similar wholesaled product) then its most likely VDSL2 via FTTN not FTTH. NZ like the UK has rolled out an extensive FTTN network thats capable to also deliving 50Mb/s to the majority of connections, its just in NZ no ISPs are offering that yet, they claim lack of demand, I expect that to change soon as more homes get FTTH and there will be a flury of demand to match over copper.

For some odd reason BT describe in the marketing blurb that the VDSL2 service as a Fibre service, its a Fibre to the Node service not Fibre to the Home.

As others have said FTTH is on its way to NZ also, timetables for delivery to most NZ urban homes is by 2019, in the meantime FTTN is it.

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  Reply # 500164 1-Aug-2011 08:53
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NonprayingMantis: yes, isn't it strange how London has better IT infrastructure than Hawke's Bay. *rolls eyes*

The point is it wasn't always that way, and it's not just London. Being so far from the rest of the world NZ surely has a lot to gain from a modern high speed internet infrastructure.



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  Reply # 500167 1-Aug-2011 08:55
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Are you sure its a fibre connection (it may well be)

Yeah it's fibre to the door. Virgin Media. 

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  Reply # 500174 1-Aug-2011 09:11
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Christiaan:
Are you sure its a fibre connection (it may well be)

Yeah it's fibre to the door. Virgin Media. 


Are you on their true FTTH trial or just their DOCSIS3 FTTN network that they refer to as "fibre" in the same way the DSL FTTN network does? The cable network is coax to the door, but fibre fed FTTN cabinets and is the exact same technology used in Wellington, Christchurch and Kapiti by TelstraClear. It is not true fibre to the home.



 


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