Suggestions re rural connection?

Forums › New Zealand Broadband › Suggestions re rural connection?

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Topic # 95573 8-Jan-2012 15:28

WE are looking at purchasing a piece of rural property just up the road from us and need to get some ideas as to what kind of connection to go with.
at the moment we have a good plan with Telstra clear and happy with that.
I know about Farmside and thePacific.net guys in Nelson but wonder if there is anything else in our area that we could look at that I dont know about and that someone might know about?
We are in the Picton (Marlborough) area and looking at moving to a bit more rural block still in the same area.
Dont think that the Satellite's would be intercepted by tree's etc so that shouldn't be an issue as I know a neighbor up the road has Farmside so must be ok.
Look forward to any thoughts form anyone

Cheers Vicki

1 | 2

1598 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user

Reply # 566140 8-Jan-2012 16:53

I live rurally and we are 7.5km~ from the exchange and still get a good 2Mbps. I'd say try your luck, you might just get ADSL.

JohnButt

374 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 47

Trusted

Reply # 566141 8-Jan-2012 16:54

No idea, but you could volunteer to help others to find out later :-)

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Reply # 566143 8-Jan-2012 17:03

It is probably under the 5km from the Exchange but our exchange is full here so dunno, they have been putting new boxes in to deal with all the upgrades and I see that people in Whatomngo Bay now have broadband on their lines, but in saying that I know there are no phone lines to where we are looking so not sure yet what we might do.
Have to buy the land first :)
And yes I could volunteer to help :)

I do know that there is Fibre past the road to where it is so not sure if that helps:)
They have put it in for the local Schools, but not sure when we might get to access it.

Will be an interesting exercise anyway

JohnButt

374 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 47

Trusted

Reply # 566148 8-Jan-2012 17:10

Put the address in here to find out how far to the nearest DSLAM, use google maps to identify the distance and you will be reasonably close. We have a chart identifying speeds related to distances in NZ here: https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/does-anyone-want-faster-internet

codyc1515

1598 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user

Reply # 566288 8-Jan-2012 22:13

JohnButt: Put the address in here to find out how far to the nearest DSLAM, use google maps to identify the distance and you will be reasonably close. We have a chart identifying speeds related to distances in NZ here: https://www.truenet.co.nz/articles/does-anyone-want-faster-internet

Or put your phone number in here (if you have one), it gives you at least a little hope that you may be able to get connected: https://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/linecheck

raytaylor

3224 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 624

Trusted

Reply # 566325 9-Jan-2012 00:29

I have heard a rumor that there was a small network similar to TP.net's that was called marlboroughnet or something like that. Guy was running it as a hobby for the people around the picton/marlborough sounds area- dont know if it ever took off or is still running down there.
Ask your new neighbours and see what they use.

Ray Taylor
Taylor Broadband (rural hawkes bay)
www.ruralkiwi.com

There is no place like localhost
For my general guide to extending your wireless network Click Here

raytaylor

3224 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 624

Trusted

Reply # 566326 9-Jan-2012 00:37

http://www.marlwifi.org.nz/

Thats them. Was a blog of a hobby network that they were runnng down there. Obviously the website blog is no longer maintained by the final post, but the auctual physical network could still be running.

The general rule of thumb is to avoid farmside or satelite internet in general if at all possible. Note that microwave radio broadband networks are terrestrial based and not satelite based and run much faster.

Ray Taylor
Taylor Broadband (rural hawkes bay)
www.ruralkiwi.com

There is no place like localhost
For my general guide to extending your wireless network Click Here

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Reply # 566421 9-Jan-2012 11:01

Yes I had heard about the Marlborough wireless but had forgotten about it, checked the web site too but nothing there is there.
Interesting you say avoid the Farmside and Satellite services, can you move down here and setup? :)

WE haven't brought the land yet, just working on it, there is a phone line about 1km down the road, it may even be worth it to have it put in to the property, will have to look at that later but I do know that the lines further back are not very good and some of my clients have problems with it dropping out.

Great feedback guys, interesting to read what you all have to say.

codyc1515

1598 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user

Reply # 566434 9-Jan-2012 11:26

turtle63: Yes I had heard about the Marlborough wireless but had forgotten about it, checked the web site too but nothing there is there.
Interesting you say avoid the Farmside and Satellite services, can you move down here and setup? :)

WE haven't brought the land yet, just working on it, there is a phone line about 1km down the road, it may even be worth it to have it put in to the property, will have to look at that later but I do know that the lines further back are not very good and some of my clients have problems with it dropping out.

Great feedback guys, interesting to read what you all have to say.

When the line already has problems dropping out and the distance from the others (1km), plus the cost to get it from there (cost us about $900 to get it a couple hundred meters) it may not be worth going with ADSL. Whats the reception like on Vodafone there? They offer a Wireless Broadband installation (as of late): http://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/wireless/. Its worth checking out, often times the speed on 3G is faster than a Rural ADSL connection. See my signature.

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Reply # 566502 9-Jan-2012 14:11

I checked on Vodafone's site with the neighbors address and it said this!

Sorry, we are currently unable to determine what services you are able to get.

I think he uses Telecom mobile actually
It may be year away anyway before we get there if it all goes through ok and who knows there might be something better around then, well here's hoping anyway.
They only just got ADSL round in Whatomango Bay recently, they had been waiting years.

DonGould

3889 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 163

Reply # 566518 9-Jan-2012 14:55

http://www.broadbandmap.govt.nz/map/ - have you looked at that to see who the layer 1 providers are in your area?

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Reply # 566589 9-Jan-2012 17:59

Looks like mostly Telecom but it's hard to tell really , they seem to have the monopoly I think
But nothing over the area where we are looking..
But it is still a while off so things might change in the meantime maybe :)

DonGould

3889 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 163

Reply # 566590 9-Jan-2012 18:03

turtle63: Looks like mostly Telecom but it's hard to tell really , they seem to have the monopoly I think
But nothing over the area where we are looking..
But it is still a while off so things might change in the meantime maybe :)

Remember that Telecom/Vodafone are building network out at present.

Also the smaller WISPs will look at building out to you.

You could also build network back to them.

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

turtle63

43 posts

Geek

Reply # 566593 9-Jan-2012 18:09

There has been some awful reception with both providers in this area, some places in the sounds the Telecom will work and then other places Vodafone will work so who knows.
WE are in Picton at the moment and looking at possibly moving up the Boons Valley area where there are no phone lines
They have put Fibre in past our place where we are now and that goes past where we are looking so we are hoping it may help when we do go up there is we get this land :)

DonGould

3889 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 163

Reply # 566603 9-Jan-2012 19:14

turtle63: There has been some awful reception with both providers in this area, some places in the sounds the Telecom will work and then other places Vodafone will work so who knows.
WE are in Picton at the moment and looking at possibly moving up the Boons Valley area where there are no phone lines
They have put Fibre in past our place where we are now and that goes past where we are looking so we are hoping it may help when we do go up there is we get this land :)

The RBI - $285m to pushing fibre and mobile out. So stuff is going to improve.

There's also a world of difference between mobile and fixed point to point wireless.

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

1 | 2