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#207514 30-Dec-2016 16:24
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Hi all.
AirNZ have discontinued there airnz app. Was a poor cousin to the ios and android versions, but at least there was useful functionality.
I emailed airnz and they said business decision as not enough demand. They've done a bloody I watch version, which sticks in the craw.
Please email airnz to.put some pressure on. They could port ios version and do a UWP.


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  #1696525 30-Dec-2016 16:46
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In all seriousness I don't think putting any pressure will do any good. I was mentioned a number a few months ago by somebody for the total number of WP users and it's safe to say that based on that it's hardly surprising they pulled the plug.

 

 




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  #1696531 30-Dec-2016 17:08
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just use the web browser





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  #1696541 30-Dec-2016 17:24
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I would guess there are several orders of magnitude more people using an apple watch than Windows Phone. What rational reason would Air New Zealand have for investing in an effectively defunct platform?



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  #1696556 30-Dec-2016 18:15
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kiwidoc:

 

Hi all.
AirNZ have discontinued there airnz app. Was a poor cousin to the ios and android versions, but at least there was useful functionality.
I emailed airnz and they said business decision as not enough demand. They've done a bloody I watch version, which sticks in the craw.
Please email airnz to.put some pressure on. They could port ios version and do a UWP.

 

 

What's to stop anyone developing their own  AirNZ app for Windows Phone or porting the iOS version?





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  #1696579 30-Dec-2016 19:38
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Don't blame them pulling the plug

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  #1696595 30-Dec-2016 20:34
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Technofreak:

 

kiwidoc:

 

Hi all.
AirNZ have discontinued there airnz app. Was a poor cousin to the ios and android versions, but at least there was useful functionality.
I emailed airnz and they said business decision as not enough demand. They've done a bloody I watch version, which sticks in the craw.
Please email airnz to.put some pressure on. They could port ios version and do a UWP.

 

 

What's to stop anyone developing their own  AirNZ app for Windows Phone or porting the iOS version?

 

 

Is there a public API available? I doubt it...





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  #1696598 30-Dec-2016 20:57
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I like Windows Phone, and I'd love it to become a mainstream OS (it is IMO the easiest and most intuitive OS), BUT the fact is, Microsoft has killed it by repeatedly royally screwing loyal users. It's also FAR from stable.

If I was making an app, I sure as $#!+ wouldn't be spending time making a WP version.

My dilemma is choosing my next phone OS. Android, which I absolutely hate using, or iOS which I don't mind using at all, but hate the planned/forced obsolescence and the refusal to implement any tech that doesn't make Apple money.

Take it from a user that loves the OS, Windows Phone is dead.

Go to hell 2016!

 
 
 

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Be thankful they have Android as well as iOS. Virgin Australia have an iOS app only, everyone else has to use web (and they don't have a fully mobile site)





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Window Phone is dead, however Win10M isn't.

 

 

 

Microsoft's attempt to redefine the rules of the mobile device game by developing innovative features such as continuum, x86 on ARM, etc. mean that they could leapfrog Apple and Google to the next generation of devices and lead the pack. There are however numerous hurdles to overcome.

 

 

 

As for the demise AirNZ Windows Phone app, the issue is apparently related to some API changes made by the AirNZ dev team. Given the WP app mPass was not written by AirNZ (it was written by MarkerMetro if I remember correctly) and uptake was low, a decision was made to remove the now non-functioning app from the store. AirNZ could use the W10M iOS bridge (Islandwood) to create a UWP version, however I can't get a definitive answer from them on any of their mobile related plans.

 

 

 

In terms of functionality, I've found that on my Nexus mobile that I primarily use of the app for:

 

1. The mobile boarding pass,

 

2. Booking reminders/looking up booking information,

 

3. Reviewing APD/SP accumulation,

 

4. Remotely ordering coffee in the lounge.

 

 

 

On my W10M device, points two and three are easily achievable from the mobile website, although the UI & UX deserves a tweak. Point four is merely a gimmick, but it is point one that I will miss the greatest.

 

 


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  #1698088 3-Jan-2017 22:37
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wsnz:

 

Window Phone is dead, however Win10M isn't.

 

{snip} mean that they could leapfrog Apple and Google to the next generation of devices and lead the pack. There are however numerous hurdles to overcome.

 

 

 

 

I'll bite...

 

Hurdles like the fact that anyone that has bought a Win mobile {any version} device in the last 9 years has found it's pretty much EOL after 6 months and probably is not going to risk it again? 

 

And developers???

 

It'll take a miracle for them to get any market share after the latest Win mobile OS failure for both developers and consumers.

 

Sorry, but it'd take some AMAZING breakthrough by MS (and what's left of their version of Nokia) to take a share of anything... I'm talking "minority report" biz without-the-hand-gestures-in-public or something.


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  #1698090 3-Jan-2017 22:49
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They can't do it. No way for Microsoft to get any marketshare in mobile in the next three years.





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I loved WP, been using it for years (still do on my work phone and maintain it's the best platform of the 3 for UI by miles) , but the day they killed Astoria was the deathknell for Windows on mobiles.





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  #1698796 5-Jan-2017 11:24
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blakamin:

 

I'll bite...

 

Hurdles like the fact that anyone that has bought a Win mobile {any version} device in the last 9 years has found it's pretty much EOL after 6 months and probably is not going to risk it again? 

 

And developers???

 

It'll take a miracle for them to get any market share after the latest Win mobile OS failure for both developers and consumers.

 

Sorry, but it'd take some AMAZING breakthrough by MS (and what's left of their version of Nokia) to take a share of anything... I'm talking "minority report" biz without-the-hand-gestures-in-public or something.

 

 

Google, Apple and Microsoft all face different, significant hurdles of their own, however I wouldn't write off any of them possibly dominating the next generation mobile market.

 

MS lost the war of the initial mobile paradigm, but the bottom line is that the mobile market is evolving. Carrying around multiple devices with multiple overlapping functions is certainly not the future of computing. Developing for separate platforms; desktop, mobile, VR, automobile etc. is cumbersome and antiquated. MS have articulated their vision, time will tell as to whether it gains traction.

 

Aside from the big three above, a new company may emerge with a new paradigm, who knows, But MS's vision is enticing.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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freitasm:

 

They can't do it. No way for Microsoft to get any marketshare in mobile in the next three years.

 

 

 

 

Significant market share within three years? No. But that's not the timeframe we're examining.


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wsnz:

 

 

 

Google, Apple and Microsoft all face different, significant hurdles of their own, however I wouldn't write off any of them possibly dominating the next generation mobile market.

 

MS lost the war of the initial mobile paradigm, but the bottom line is that the mobile market is evolving. Carrying around multiple devices with multiple overlapping functions is certainly not the future of computing. Developing for separate platforms; desktop, mobile, VR, automobile etc. is cumbersome and antiquated. MS have articulated their vision, time will tell as to whether it gains traction.

 

Aside from the big three above, a new company may emerge with a new paradigm, who knows, But MS's vision is enticing.

 

 

 

 

The future is probably implants.

 

I use windows, but I'm not invested in anything with MS.

 

It's not for the home, no matter how hard they try. 

 

I live in google-world. Android phones, tablets, Android TV, chromecast audio, chromebook. Soon to be Google Home. (I'd like to see MS try that and see how far they get)

 

Windows is for... I dunno really.... plugging my external drives into I guess.

 

Even Amazon are ahead in the home. 

 

Outside an office and Xbox for homes, MS products are just basic tools. How do they change that? Xbox couldn't when they tried to turn a console into a home entertainment system.

 

When MS can release something Windows that's not dead in 6 months they *might* get some traction. But I wouldn't  hold my breath.

 

Their "vision" might be enticing, but others are already releasing the actual products, not dreams.

 

 


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