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ash3rr

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#30237 2-Feb-2009 14:23
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I recently purchased one of these and after nearly commiting suicide from frustration from not being able to use anything without a BB data plan, I would like to offer some guidance to anyone else who buys one of these without prior knowledge of Blackberries.

Everyone will tell you, that you cannot use a blackberry without a Blackberry data plan.

I have no intention of spending a exorbitant amount of money for 10MB of data, when I could have otherwise used a normal phone with the casual data rate.

I am here to tell you, that you *CAN* use a blackberry without a BB data plan.

The point is, all the software that is pre-installed from RIM will NOT work without the BB data plan, but that does not mean you cannot use third party software which will.

There is a hack out there which installs Service books, which without them you won't be able to download anything over the air.

The hack installs service books for push email and the BB browser.

After installing that, I recommend downloading Opera mini, this will allow you to surf the net. Go to Gmail, do your email, etc.

The hack, means that when you try and download something OTA on Opera, it will redirect to the BB browser (which without the service books, would fail to download) but because you have the service books, the download OTA proceeds.. very cool.

To use the GPS, you won't be able to use Google Maps (I did try downloading this, without success) Nav4All doesn't work for me either... I have however had success with MGMAPS (www.mgmaps.com) and find it very useful!! (You even have the option to download stored maps, so you don't need to use your data connection to download maps continously - I haven't been able to sort this out yet, as there are a few issues with blackberries; but it's looking promising)

NO ONE told me any of this, and I spent way too much time trying to figure all of this out, so I'm doing this as a service to anyone else who is in a similar position to myself.

Cheers

Any questions or problems feel free to PM me.

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#197180 21-Feb-2009 21:52
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you forgot to add to use funambol to push your emails but heh I paid for subs to RIM service, just because it's cool to have them.

You don't need to use opera mini to browse once you have this hack also. You can use the browser supplied by the hack.

And no one needs to tell you about this as it is 'stealing' in a way. You should have researched on google first.
It was pretty easy to find on google anyway .... Innocent




 

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  #200859 12-Mar-2009 17:08
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Where did you find the hack?I've searched google but can't find anything.Thanks

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  #200860 12-Mar-2009 17:10
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Amour: Where did you find the hack?I've searched google but can't find anything.Thanks


Really? did you enter 'blackberry without BIS/BES' it's the first one on the list!




 

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  #200865 12-Mar-2009 17:24
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Found it! Thank you =]

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  #200877 12-Mar-2009 17:51
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I don't understand how to uninstall the browser.Can anyone help?I'm looking at this site. http://bb.anworm.com/Home/english


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  #200879 12-Mar-2009 17:53
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Amour: I don't understand how to uninstall the browser.Can anyone help?I'm looking at this site. http://bb.anworm.com/Home/english



not the place for discussion sorry mate, this site don't suppot this sorta thing ..look at FUG

read read and read that's all I can say.




 

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  #205309 4-Apr-2009 18:41
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I have a question,  even with doing this mod wouldnt you service provider still nail you for data usage even if you dont have a data plan?  I have Everything but a data plan on my new BB and was interested in doing this mod but I dont think it will get me anywhere?  I am on the bell network here in Canada so if anyone has any insite on this mod on that network it be great

 
 
 
 

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  #205312 4-Apr-2009 18:56
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kwalsh24: I have a question,  even with doing this mod wouldnt you service provider still nail you for data usage even if you dont have a data plan?  I have Everything but a data plan on my new BB and was interested in doing this mod but I dont think it will get me anywhere?  I am on the bell network here in Canada so if anyone has any insite on this mod on that network it be great


If you were in New Zealand without a data plan you will get charged $1.00 a day currently for 10 MB of data so there is 'casual' data rates, unsure what yours over there is.




 

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  #206055 8-Apr-2009 17:22
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kwalsh24: I have a question,  even with doing this mod wouldnt you service provider still nail you for data usage even if you dont have a data plan?  I have Everything but a data plan on my new BB and was interested in doing this mod but I dont think it will get me anywhere?  I am on the bell network here in Canada so if anyone has any insite on this mod on that network it be great


Hey,

yeah, you would still get charged for data usage.

the point I was trying to make is that here in NZ, and I assume it's the same in Canada... that you are supposed to have a specific Blackberry data plan, which is usually over priced in my opinion...

The point of this hack, is that it allows you to just use your providers "generic" data plan, which is generally a lot cheaper than the blackberry specific version.


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