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ShinyChrome

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#251191 12-Jun-2019 15:55

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/amd-launches-navi-as-the-449-radeon-rx-5700-xt/

For a more tech-y read, plus a bit of Ryzen:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3481-amd-navi-rx-5700-xt-specs-overclocking-architecture

Should be interesting to see how it prices here once the AIB partners announce their versions

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#2258094 14-Jun-2019 12:36

7nm process, that's very impressive, should make the power consumption better? Looks like a good choice either way.

I didn't realise AMD supplies all the consoles, current and future as well as Apple. Here I thought they were the underdog to nvidia..

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#2258156 14-Jun-2019 13:19

Jakes:

7nm process, that's very impressive, should make the power consumption better? Looks like a good choice either way.

I didn't realise AMD supplies all the consoles, current and future as well as Apple. Here I thought they were the underdog to nvidia.

That is the idea, which has historically been something they seem to have struggled with.

Yep, in the eternal Playstation vs Xbox battle, the winner is AMD. Although, who knows how much longer that will be the case with stuff like the Nvidia Shield and the appearance of cloud gaming platforms.

AMD have been doing some pretty cool stuff over the years (FreeSync, HBM, Zen, APUs), unfortunately the execution does not always live up to the concept. Nvidia also just has more money to throw around and a more refined product. They also throw a s*** ton of money into marketing whereas I have always felt AMD don't really bother.

It is pretty much the same story with Chipzilla (Intel) on the CPU front really. Although, AMD have done a great job recently of clawing back with Zen (and helped by rampant stagnation in Intel's product line), so will be interesting to see how Zen 2 capitalizes on that.

Hopefully Navi will finally bring the raw horsepower to the table to trade blows with Nvidia on the flagship GPU end. As you have discovered though, they can compete with Nvidia in the consumer space in other ways than raw performance. It will also depend on market adoption for ray-tracing, since Nvidia may have quite the head-start on them if that is the way the market goes.

Tzoi

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#2258159 14-Jun-2019 13:23

AMD makes more sense for consoles because they make CPUs as well and consoles don't use standard parts so require some engineering to get them to work together properly (I think they generally have APUs?)

Apple used to use nvidia I think but nvidia got into their bad books over something or other.

In generally consumer world though AMD is far behind Nvidia and Intel (though starting to do better in the CPU market now)

Axeman480

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#2270913 6-Jul-2019 11:23

Not sure if this link includes the AMD navi price cut announced today .

NZ Price for the 5700 almost the same price as a better performing rtx 2070 .

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:puQz2pFW5S0J:https://www.playtech.co.nz/radeon-rx-5700-8g-graphics-cards.html+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz

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#2272287 9-Jul-2019 11:13

Axeman480:

Not sure if this link includes the AMD navi price cut announced today .

NZ Price for the 5700 almost the same price as a better performing rtx 2070 .

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:puQz2pFW5S0J:https://www.playtech.co.nz/radeon-rx-5700-8g-graphics-cards.html+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz

Well looks like that was the old price thankfully, seems to be ~$700 for XT, ~$600 for non-XT. Considering there seems to be only about a 10% performance diff, I'm not what they were hoping to achieve there.

A few reviews if anyone is interested:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_5700_and_5700_xt_review,1.html

It will be interesting to see how it performs with better cooling than the crappy blower. Hopefully we will start seeing AIB cards in the next month.

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#2272338 9-Jul-2019 12:52

Performance for price seems slightly better than Nvidia but without the ray tracing tech. I'm in the market to build a new pc in the next few months and I think it'll come down to a 5700xt or a 2070 super, at the moment I'm leaning towards the 5700xt but a bit of a price drop from Nvidia might get me looking that way again.

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#2272379 9-Jul-2019 13:27

Tzoi:
AMD makes more sense for consoles because they make CPUs as well and consoles don't use standard parts so require some engineering to get them to work together properly (I think they generally have APUs?)

Apple used to use nvidia I think but nvidia got into their bad books over something or other.

In generally consumer world though AMD is far behind Nvidia and Intel (though starting to do better in the CPU market now)

I thought Apple predominantly used ATI/AMD with only the occasional support for Nvidia?

Anyway, to the topic. I've used Nvidia since their first card came out to replace the Voodoo which was my first. I remember worrying about the HS temps so I screwed a small fan onto it. I only ever had one Radeon which I can't remember now what it was, probably one of the first of that line.

However, I still followed ATI and then AMD's developments with interest. I thought and still think it's important to have competition in this space so buyers get the benefits that can result so I hope this latest product range does well.