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#261759 13-Dec-2019 15:49

Here it is, announced just now at The Game Awards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tUqIHwHDEc

Also announced to go along with it, a new Hellblade - I'm super excited about that, the first is one of the best games of all time IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWI4bkD9ZM

I wonder if they've made a vertical console this time because they have a full size GPU in there?

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#2374853 13-Dec-2019 15:55

That's uhhh... an interesting shape they have gone with. Won't stick out next to your TV at all.

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#2374965 13-Dec-2019 17:53

Oh no, looks like it doesn't have the UHD blu-ray player :(

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#2374972 13-Dec-2019 18:24

Not sure how thats going to fit inside most peoples entertainment cabinets unless you lay it on its side..

Edit: Then I read this quote "The console itself is designed to be used in both vertical and horizontal orientations", so that answers that

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#2426975 25-Feb-2020 15:35

Some more info on the next gen Xbox surfaced today, namely a few hardware and software features. They mention "hardware-accelerated raytracing", so I'm guessing AMD has an answer up their sleeves for that.

Interesting that they say it will have HDMI 2.1 "features" such as ALLM and VRR, and then 120fps support in two different statements. Nothing about whether it will have full-fat 48gbps ports, but I'm guessing if they are still using "8K capable" as a selling point, they have to, no?

Another interesting thing is the earlier mention of a "forwards-compatible" arrangement, much like the Xbox One X and S share.

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#2439773 17-Mar-2020 10:02

EuroGamer has published a deep-dive into the Series X arch, looks pretty damn impressive. It highlights some very cool stuff they are doing and using some designs outside the normal PC box.

Their apparent performance targets are 4k 60 and 120; I'm guessing the former for graphically intensive games using stuff like RT and the latter for lower intensity but higher performance FPS stuff.

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#2439804 17-Mar-2020 10:19

@ShinyChrome - do you think the series X will HAVE to come with HDMI 2.1 then? It will make compatibility with TV sets interesting (having been reading up on the latest sets and specs). BTW, feel free to correct me on these, I am still earning, and still rocking a 1080p plasma!

VRR, which is great for gamers, is HDMI 2.1 only, so lots of current sets won't support it.

High fresh rates, such as 120fps @ 4K will need the bandwidth of HDMI 2.1, so won't work on lots of current sets.

Wonder if the release of the Xbox (and the PS4) is aligned in any way to the hit after the 2020 TV sets are released, which should focus more on HDMI 2.1 (or its features)?

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#2439819 17-Mar-2020 10:29

MS has confirmed that it will support HDMI 2.1 TV sets with VRR etc last month so the HDMI port at the back will be 2.1

The specs looks great. I am guessing this will be priced at USD $599 which is fair for what’s on offer. Looking forward to quick resume of multiple games support.

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#2439821 17-Mar-2020 10:30

Give. It. To. Me.

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#2439822 17-Mar-2020 10:30

While it seems like a lot of TV OEMs are playing funny buggers with their HDMI 2.1 branding when they only have just eARC or ALLM, from Microsoft's blog post, it looks like the real deal:

This has included developing brand new technology such as Dynamic Latency Input (DLI) as well as helping to shape the HDMI 2.1 specification by adding new gaming-centric features such as support for 120hz, Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) and Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM). The team has also been working with the industry’s leading TV manufacturers for the past two years to ensure the display ecosystem is ready for the features coming with Xbox Series X.

While 4k120 or 8k30 is technically possible on HDMI 2.0 with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, all signs point to full-fat HDMI 2.1

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#2439833 17-Mar-2020 10:44

If you want a series-x for Christmas this year, make sure you pick your TV carefully... Sony's lineup being a bit all over the place for one in terms of HDMI 2.1 support

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#2439868 17-Mar-2020 11:18

Going by the numbers, this looks very impressive. Will be interesting to see how the PS5 compares. I'm firmly in the PS camp when it comes to console gaming but man I can see the appeal of the Xbox, especially with backwards compatibility UHD drive and Game pass. Might have to get both hahahaha

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#2439964 17-Mar-2020 13:44

Main improvement that stands out will be the storage and i/o. Low cpu overhead on a new protocol that they’ll use on a nvme pcie4 drive.

The rest of the specs are pretty bog standard (aside from price, but thats a different topic) vs PC specs. This’ll hopefully light a fire under nvidia to release something decent to the market.

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#2440192 17-Mar-2020 17:45

Slighty OT, but still applicable to those looking at the 8K resolution of the Series X. This video shows a 65K OLED next to a 8K QLED and, whilst it's video, not gaming, the back and forth from two people who seem to be in the industry (I cannot tell 100%) about which one which is one (it's a blind test) is really interesting. There are notes in the comments that the New York footage was shot with 3 x 8K Red camera's and stitched together, so definitely tons of resolution available in the source.

And yes, I know, the sets are only 65", but watch at 11:30 onwards where they are nose-to-screen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9K9oU_VTQ8

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#2441018 19-Mar-2020 09:18

Well the ps5 specs are now out. It’ll be interesting to see if their 25% clock advantage makes up for the missing CU’s vs xbox.

One thing aside from SSD that’s new is 3d audio (at least for the ps5) where they’re planning to use raytracing for sound.