Orcon fibre router and Google wifi setup

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Tomresearch

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#269981 18-Apr-2020 10:42

Hi,

Hope someone can assist me.

I have an Orcon fibre router and Google wifi (3 nodes in the mesh).

What is the correct config between the Orcon router and Google wifi?

Does my Orcon router still need DHCP enabled? it currently has the 192.168.1.x subnet in its DHCP range.

Then my Google wifi devices also has DHCP in a different subnet range: 192.168.86.x.

I have noticed that my devices (laptops, phones, etc) sometimes pick up the 192.168.1.x IP address and sometimes the 192.168.86.x IP address.

I was under the impression that the Google wifi talks to the Orcon router, while all my devices in turn talk to the Google wifi (and get their IPs from google wifi) - but if both are DHCP servers, then naturally a device will obtain an IP from the first device that responds to the DHCP request.

The reason why I ask, is that at times, when on a Microsoft Teams call, my connection goes silent for a few seconds, and then the call resumes - hence my question on the setup between these 2 products/devices.

I assume some of you will have a similar setup, how have you resolved any issues, or optimized your config?

Thank you,

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#2464594 18-Apr-2020 10:51

Hi, so sounds like your Orcon router still has its wifi turned on, hence devices are picking that up and connecting, hence pickup the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet. I suggest you turn the Orcon routers wireless off.

If you want to dispence with having the Orcon router and the current double nat situation then you could purchase a small managed switch and have that remove the vlan10 tag that is on the WAN port from the ONT. The Google Wifi product does not support vlans, so it cannot deal with that, so currently the Orcon router is needed to sort that, but it leaves you with the current muddle.

I also presume you have nothing but the Google WiFi router connected to the Orcon router, ie not other wired connections on the Orcon router.

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#2464730 18-Apr-2020 13:23

Hi, if you want to stay with the Google product then I recommend you use it as the complete solution, ie route and wireless. As you have discovered if it is in bridge mode you loose much of its ability, and mulitple units no longer act as one.

My suggestion of a switch between the ONT and the main Google router will get around the in ability of the Google router to handle the Vlan presented by the ONT, it will also give you the ability to expand the number of LAN ports at the main Google router.

I note the switch I linked earlier is not available (due to lockdown I presume) till early next month, but this slightly more expensive one ships in 2days. PM me if you want to know more about how to configure them.

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#2464762 18-Apr-2020 14:12

Yes, orcon router disappears, switch fits between ont and Google router, the Google router is now the one and only router.

Question, do you currently use the voice port of the orcon router.

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#2464778 18-Apr-2020 14:40

Hi, just one final thought, as I recall the Google product only has the one lan port, ie one WAN and one LAN, if you go with a 5port managed switch (two of which I have linked above) then that will leave you with two spare lan ports, ie one port for to the ONT, one port to the Google Wan and one port from the Google LAN, leaving two spare LAN ports to connect things to at the main router. So you may want to concider getting an 8port switch which will leave you with 5 spare lan ports.

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